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[-] slaacaa@lemmy.world 88 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

“Stanford student Billy Ramirez, a member of the class of 2027, told the publication that he remembered posing for the original photo, only to discover that he had been replaced by an AI-generated Black woman."

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 102 points 4 days ago

It is worth remembering that AI replaces the ENTIRE image, even if you ask it to change only one thing. That's why every single person in the image looks different.

[-] thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The Asian girl and the white dude both got mildly more attractive. But Billy got that glow up!

[-] SpamalaHamderson@piefed.social 21 points 4 days ago

Everyday I am more astounded at how well transracial people are passing!

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago

Rachel Dolezal walked so that they could run.

Or something.

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 days ago

The middle dude is a mash-up of the two guys in the original. One face and one hair.

[-] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

If that is in fact how the system in question works. There are systems which allow you to edit regions, like Affinity

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago

We know that's how the system works by the fact that every single person in the image looks different.

[-] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

We know how THIS system works - but Affinity is just one example of how you can modify an area with AI, not just the whole image.

Are you asserting how every piece of software works, based on a single image example? Because that’s wildly incorrect.

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago

We aren't talking about other systems. Don't move the goalposts.

[-] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago

You werent talking about any specific system at all until that user mentioned Affinity. I think you're moving the goal posts here as youre now trying to frame the discussion as if you were talking about some other yet unnamed system the whole time when your original comment mentioned nothing of the sort.

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works -3 points 4 days ago

If that is in fact how the system in question works.

We know that’s how the system works by the fact...

We know how THIS system works - but...

They cast doubt, I point out proof, they deflect to other systems they might be right about. Sounds like they moved the goalposts to me. I don't need to know which system it is to know it does what we can see it do.

[-] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago

It is worth remembering that AI replaces the ENTIRE image, even if you ask it to change only one thing.

This is what they replied to. You made a blanket statement about using AI to edit photos not anything about any particular program or system. Furthermore, you can't know which system was used here as you dont know whether all these changes were intentionally done or simply a byproduct of using something that changes the entire image.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 3 points 4 days ago

I point out proof

That wasn't proof of anything. Not only does it not make any sense in the context of the discussion, it was incorrect ("every single person in the image looks different"), as there are more than three people in the image that you probably didn't notice, and they appear to be largely untouched.

Brother... are you an AI?

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 7 points 4 days ago

We aren't talking about other systems.

You don't know what system you even are talking about.

[-] dgdft@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

As a neutral observer, you clearly and unambiguously moved the goalpost.

[-] HadzTheChronicest@piefed.social 1 points 3 days ago

This article is about Stanford U using AI on a photo of their students. No one was talking about what system they used. Then lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world started talking about Affinity, which is making it seem like people who are pro AI are moving the goalpost to avoid talking about the issue. The issue being that AI is being used inappropriately.

It seems there are different AI systems. One that can modify a specific region and one that needs to modify the whole image. I doubt that anyone who came to this post cares what system Stanford used. They just hate that this is happening.

You are moving the goalpost, changing the subject, and talking about a new subject. When Susaga@sh.itjust.works brought this up, you did turn on him and continued to talk about AI systems.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 0 points 4 days ago

Or they ran a prompt with more than one unique request in it?

[-] Susaga@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

Why would they request to retexture the stone tiles at the top to have stronger speckles? That's not just "we turned up the contrast", cause the rest of the image has lower contrast.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 5 points 4 days ago

It's kinda hard to judge the contrast difference, given that the left image is an arctifact-riddled JPG, and the right image is an artifact-riddled photo of a print.

I'm just saying, a generative AI model does not inherently need to apply changes to the entire image. That is a very outdated understanding of the process, which tells me that it's probably been a hot minute since you've been paying any attention to AI, and therefore you probably shouldn't speak with such an authoritative tone on the subject.

[-] Natanael@infosec.pub 3 points 4 days ago

Regional control (especially ControlNet) was a thing before the current models got popular.

Which is precisely why I hate the fact that the general lazy models are the only ones that are popular. Where the hell is the tooling to do fancy controlled geometric transforms plus style transfer in a controlled manner, etc? It's all just "write a prompt and run it a hundred times", nobody want to put human effort into the system anymore

[-] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

As someone else pointed out, there are systems where you can isolate and replace only a portion of the image while leaving the rest unchanged, but you're correct in this case, as you point out in your last sentence.

This sort of system takes the input image which it blurs and adds noise, and then regenerates from that rather than an initial pure-noise seed. You can mask or add more noise to the areas that you want and more dramatic change. Whole image-to-image diffusion; mostly uses the same mechanisms as a regular text-to-image diffusion.

[-] Chozo@fedia.io 3 points 4 days ago

This is inaccurate, current models can target specific zones in an image. Midjourney was capable of that ages ago, and Midjourney is already basically ancient history at this point.

[-] kionay@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

this is correct, it's called in-painting. you mat-out the area you want replaced and with modern GPT architecture you can also use text input to steer what gets in-painted

not saying that that was for-sure done here since the changes don't look too localized, but the technology absolutely exists

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

They merged the two white guys...

Added a black woman...

And took like 20lbs off the Asian woman. Its shitty, but I don't understand why it's news outside of Stanford.

Reminds me of something Dean Pelton would do tho.

[-] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 2 points 3 days ago

Because it gives magats another excuse to shit on dei and continue promoting actual racism.

I have to say it's a stupid fucking move by Stanford too.

[-] jqubed@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Maybe Pierce would’ve done it for marketing class and said something misogynistic about making the Asian woman thinner

If the camera adds 10 pounds then it's basically break even.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 4 days ago

The camera doesn't shorten that neck extension that the Asian girl got, though!

[-] the_q@piefed.social 4 points 4 days ago

You don't understand why it's news outside Stanford...

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