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Entry #1: the entire .ml user base
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Please list where you refuted my points; link them directly instead of gish-gallop spam.
Indeed, it is Genocide vs. Genocide. Splitting hairs in between reveals your apologist rhetoric. What's cartoonish is endlessly droning on -- just like a zionist -- how your preferred Genocide is somehow justifiable because some people are... Sympathetic to Russia and could just move there if they wanted? Yikes!
Meanwhile you have me wondering if you believe the French should invade parts of Canada where French is spoken more, hahahahahah! Talk about cartoonish.
I refuted them right here, which you call "gish-gallop" and "copy-pasta." The overwhelming majority of the world does not believe there is genocide in Ukraine, while the overwhelming majority of the world understands that there is genocide in Palestine. You have never once backed up your fringe claims, and as a consequence have continuously undermined the Palestinian genocide and the struggle for self-determination in the Donbass. This is incredibly bad-faith on your part.
Nope, not seeing it, sorry. I already highlighted some blatant fallacies within your copy-pasta spam that didn't settle with me, so repeatedly linking to that comment isn't going to convince me.
If your goal here is to persuade (otherwise, what else would it be?), then you're utterly failing.
Keep reviewing my modlog; maybe you'll learn some things. Lots of innocent civilians live in Israel; that is independent of being zionist and independent of condoning genocide. Just as I wouldn't presume upon every Palestinian being sympathetic to the war criminals of Hamas who raped and murdered children on October 7th -- right?
Now I'll wait for you to justify France invading Canada because French is spoken in certain regions more, lol. Downright hilarious one thought this somehow justified leveling of Mariupol Theater; the rape of bucha; the relentless bombings of cities who most certainly did not vote for or support Russia let alone speak Russian lol.
Slava Ukraini
Free Palestine
Can't be for one without the other, lest one is a hypocrite.
You highlighted no fallacies whatsoever, nor have you provided any evidence for any of your claims thus far. Instead, you repeat hasbara, considering that the UN understands that no independent investigations verified sexual assault was weaponized on October 7the. Israel is a genocidal settler-colony, it isn't a state that can continue to exist. Anyone living in Israel has a duty to oppose the state of Israel and liberate Palestine.
Then, you hypocritically provide gish-gallop as a cover for your false compassion to Quebec and France. The Donhass region was embroiled in a civil war against Kiev for 8 years before Russia joined the Ukrainian Civil War, escalating it to the Russo-Ukrainian War. Quebec is not at war with Toronto, nor did Toronto have a coup where Quebec's supported president was ousted. Israeli-Ukrainian millitary cooperation is also well-documented. This explains your insistence that Netanyahu is the only problem, and that Israel itself as a settler-colony that only exists on genocide is fine as an entity if it had a more progressive Zionist government.
Look, you replied to me when I was commenting to another more rational user. Your methods of persuasion are failing miserably. Please, change strategies. Last chance, buddy!
(Moreover, if any neutral reader to this thread has questions or inquiries, please let me know! I will gleefully engage in good faith with anyone who isn't spouting Pro-Kremlin autocratic propaganda).
For fun, I'll dismantle one:
UN: "Reasonable Grounds to Believe Conflict-Related Sexual Violence Occurred in Israel During 7 October Attacks, Senior UN Official Tells Security Council"
Slava Ukraini
Free Palestine
Can't be for one without the other, lest one is a hypocrite.
No idea what you're referring to, considering you only have downvotes in this thread and 0 upvotes. Demonstrably, my persuasion has been more effective, considering I have cited every major claim I've made, while you've dodged every single argument I've presented.
Naturally, one cannot presume the audience is neutral by upvotes/downvotes alone; for as I said, all these down-votes may very well just be sock-puppet accounts or biased Vatniks just the same. Silly one would ever presume up/down-vote ratio is some legitimate indication of persuasion in an unverifiable audience pool. "Cartoonish," as you say, really.
But I'm sorry but your final chance has been..... D-D-DENIED.
Alright, after seeing this piss -poor attempt of yours to write anything of substance, dont bother replying to my other comment, you're clearly incapable.
Oh don't worry, sweetheart.
Had no intention to rehash this cognitive dissonance that has long been debunked. After all, capability is not the issue; it's getting past the fundamentalist zealotry that clouds better judgement.
I don't appreciate the sexist condecention
Well, I'm glad you've at least managed to gain some introspection
What, a male can't be a sweetheart? Now that's sexist.
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/sweetheart
Condescension*, by the way.
You engaged in ableism, calling me "incapable" earlier. Yikes!
Sure, lets pretend you didnt mean it with that connotation.
Right... So is this really the level of conversation where you feel the most comfortable? Must be, since you insist to drag it down to here.
It didn't. Let's pretend you didn't know and make a blind assumption. I'll admit playful condescension; but not the sexism. After all I'm not maga. I'm no fan of lies either.
What? You went there. Sexism bad when I allegedly do it, but ableism is okay when you do it? You dragged us both here.
But maybe we can find agreement by going back to simple:
Agreed?
I really don't understand why you prefer this to actual conversation. You seem to care so much until the very moment anyone engages and then youre just... A puddle of clichéed disappointments
I truly thought this would be us coming to a mutual agreement for once! I didn't think saying "Agreed!" to that would be all that difficult!
Alas, I see you're banned so until next account... ?
In the meantime:
Edit: If this is at all controversial for you, then know you're an authoritarian bootlicker.
The utter lack of any upvotes means you have no supporters here. Simple as that.