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submitted 1 month ago by devrandom@lemmy.ca to c/alberta@lemmy.ca

"Whatever happens on Oct. 19, the United Conservative Party of Premier Danielle Smith will have left Alberta a worse place than it was before the 10 referenda scheduled to be voted on that day..."

by David Climenhaga

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[-] DrinkMonkey@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yet Trudeau actually built a pipeline to tidewater (unlike Harper and his cabinet minister Kenney). That the bottom briefly fell out of the Alberta bumper sticker market, only to be reinCarney-ated before he even did anything is a clear indication of the tribal nature of voting culture and behaviour. Alberta is not unique, but is the strongest example in Canada.

[-] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Kinder Morgan were the original owners of the pipeline. After over a decade of legal battles and never ending studies they walked away from the project. Trudeau's bill C-69 was widely viewed as the 'no pipelines' bill. Pipeline was sold to Govt of Canada for $4.7B with an estimated cost of $5.4B to complete.. The actual cost to complete the TransMountain pipline was $34B. That is kind of crazy.

Now Carney's job is to convince private corporations it is safe and worthwhile to invest in the energy industry again. We will see if it happens.

[-] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago

It's takes like this that spur Albertan separatism.

[-] DrinkMonkey@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

You’re going to have to explain how “Trudeau built a pipeline to Canadian tidewater and Harper didn’t” foments separatism because I am not following. It’s literally a pipe to counteract dependence on the US Midwest market that only deepened under Harper.

[-] blartcap_@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

"They said that we're going to hate a Liberal just for being a Liberal! That's it, we're seceding!"

Some real bright bulbs going off there, huh.

[-] Smaile@lemmy.ca -3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

and he killed another pipe line we were building to pocket a foreign oil arbitrage knowing it would pop up when it happened, fuck him.

[-] DrinkMonkey@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago

…but are upset he didn’t build 2. Got it.

[-] Smaile@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm not talking about harper, your assuming I'm a conservative when I voted for carney, and your excusing corruption on top of that. go back to reddit if your going to be a know it all you little tribalist.

[-] DrinkMonkey@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

I make no such assumption - I’m pushing back against the narrative that Trudeau is to blame for Alberta separatism, which doesn’t survive inspection. He is a convenient scapegoat of course - the bumper stickers are everywhere to prove it. But on the pipeline front, Harper fumbled Northern Gateway, while Trudeau built Trans Mountain. TransCanada killed Energy East because oil collapsed from $100 to $50, though this in turn freed up capital for Keystone XL (we could only afford one, and Harper’s and Kenney’s infamous line about not picking winners and losers meant paralysis around any new tidewater pipes and further reliance on the US Midwest market). But Biden killed Keystone, not Trudeau. My point is that hanging this on Trudeau is convenient and in service of Alberta Exceptionalism and feeds the conservative narrative of unfair treatment and longstanding strategy of blaming Ottawa for everything. This culture of externalizing blame is the real cause. And Jim Prentice tried to warn everyone.

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