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[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 1 day ago

“black people are astronomically more likely to be on welfare than white people. So the number of single young white male ‘Brads’ abusing the welfare system is minuscule. Practically non-existent.

Pretty ridiculously disingenuous and misleading to make this complaint when there are more white people on food stamps than black people.

dignity of work

What a joke

[-] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

When looking at stats, you shouldn’t look at absolute numbers, you need to look at distribution too. According to google US is approximately 59% white, and 13% black, and food stamp numbers are 38% white and 25% black. So there does seem to be truth to if you are black you are more likely to be on food stamps.

Systemic racism might play a factor here.

[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

So there does seem to be truth to if you are black you are more likely to be on food stamps

Sure but in context that should not matter at all if the question is what demographic is the appropriate choice to represent the typical US welfare recipient. In this case total numbers are more relevant than relative proportion, you'd want the median person.

More than 1/3 of just under 2/3 of the population vs 1/4 of slightly over 1/10 of the population.

Rough estimates

White on food stamps: 76.2 million

Black on food stamps: 11.1 million

[-] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That’s my point though, those numbers are meaningless. What if I gave you these numbers:

White not on food stamps: 122.6 million

Black not on food stamps: 33.2 million

There are zero valid conclusions to be drawn.

Analyzing the actual numbers, it seems a random black person is 3x more likely to be on food stamps than a random white person in the US.

(0.25/0.13) / (0.38/0.59) = 2.99

[-] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 3 points 20 hours ago

Also, if there are 100 evenly distributed welfare recipients in a room, and you pick one at random, it is more likely they will be white than black.

[-] Soggy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Systemic racism might play a factor here.

Might? Centuries of being held down at every turn and prevented from accumulating generational wealth "might" be a factor in modern poverty?

[-] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Not everything is literal my guy. Try reading between the lines.

[-] Soggy@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago
[-] dogdeanafternoon@lemmy.ca 2 points 23 hours ago

Holy shit lol this gave me a chuckle. Thanks for that.

[-] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago

I have been a white man who needed assistance and turned to "welfare" to survive.

[-] TheRagingGeek@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I as well, it was what opened my eyes in my 20’s that all the bullshit I was fed as a kid was in fact false.

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

Congratulations on your transition! How do you feel now?

[-] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

It's nice not needing the help anymore. Transitioning to being not broke wasn't an easy or quick process, and I certainly couldn't have done it all on my own, but it was worth it. I'm still a white guy though I try not to hold that against myself.

[-] zedgeist@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Will you hold it against me? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[-] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 2 points 21 hours ago

I'll have to ask my wife, y'know, out of respect for her.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

“black people are astronomically more likely to be on welfare than white people. So the number of single young white male ‘Brads’ abusing the welfare system is minuscule. Practically non-existent.

Pretty ridiculously disingenuous and misleading to make this complaint when there are more white people on food stamps than black people.

That's called statistics! Remember, there are 3 types of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.

This is just another rebranding of the "13 50" bullshit in a different trenchcoat.

this post was submitted on 28 Sep 2026
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