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[-] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 days ago

No one is saying that the Democrats and Republicans are the same. What we're saying is that the Democrats allegience to the ruling class puts them in a position that makes them unable to deal with fascism, and the result is that their function as a political party is to defang otherwise radically leftist movements.

Joe Biden spent a record amount on ICE camps while the threat of fascism was obviously clear.

Biden continued building Trump's border wall.

Joe Biden sat on his ass for 4 years and refused to prosecute Trump.

Democrats sat with their thumbs up their butts while Merrick Garland got flogged for scotus, and then turned around to immediately confirm Barrett.

Obama not only discovered Tom Homan, but awarded him with a medal when Homan devised a plan to separate migrant children from their parents at detention centers.

Every single dem senator voted to confirm Marco Rubio, who has obviously been one of the biggest champions of "immigration enforcement.

Democrats capitulated during the multiple government shutdowns.

Democrats blatantly shafted Bernie in 2016, and all but guaranteed Trump's ascension.

Democrats refused to pull Biden out of the race and all but assured Trump's second term.

Kamala promised to build the world's most lethal military during an active genocide

Democrats, during a period of blistering inaction, rushed into action to censure Al Greene when he was rude.

[-] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world -4 points 2 days ago

No one is saying that the Democrats and Republicans are the same.

Literally lying in your first sentence. Dude, people say that all the fucking time.

[-] Gorillazrule@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

Genuinely where? I always find myself reading through these threads because it's something I feel very conflicted about and still haven't really found a satisfying answer to. And every time I see a bunch of comments of people calling out the "both sides same" people. But I don't know that I've ever seen someone actually say this. Maybe it's the way the comments are sorted, maybe they get deleted, maybe I've just somehow gotten lucky.

But in this thread alone, I read through a little over 100 comments to get to this one. So far, 0 have said that both sides are the same. There have been 6 comments either complaining about people saying both sides are the same. Or accusing people of saying that. But I haven't seen anyone actually saying that.

I've seen criticisms of Democrats. That's a valid thing to do, and doesn't mean that both sides are the same, just that our side has issues too. That should be addressed, and acting like they're not issues isn't going to make them go away.

I've seen people talk about similarities between both sides. And calling out the Democrats slowly leaning further and further rightward doing things like throwing immigrants and trans people under the bus in the efforts to chase the moderate conservative vote. That's not saying both sides are the same.

I've seen people talking about how both sides are captured by corporate interests. And don't really listen to the people they represent but rather their donors, to keep that money flowing. This is something both parties share in common, but again it's not saying that they're the same though.

I'm not saying that you're wrong. I'm just trying to understand, with how often I see people complaining about people saying it all the time, how I haven't really seen anybody say it.

[-] edible_funk@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah according to most of lemmy voting for Dems is actually worse for some dumb fuckin tankie-ass reason.

this post was submitted on 29 Sep 2026
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