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I'm sure Socrates and Plato turning over in their graves looking at MBAs running educational institutions.
Probably should have picked two philosophers who didn't have significant portions of their works dedicated to defending slavery and the literal Greek patriarchy.
he was clearly picked due to the idea of the philosopher king (in Plato's famously undemocratic Kaliopolis, which is a lot like the caste system)
Slavery then was very different from the horrors that are chattel slavery. From my reading Socrates and Plato both reject the Greek patriarchy, but if you have writings of Plato's that shows otherwise I'd love to see them.
You're a trash person who doesn't know what he's talking about, and even if you were right, you'd still be a garbage heap for thinking "but it wasn't about race" or "but their children wouldn't always be slaves as well, unless of course they fell into debt while their slave parents died in the mines" is a defense.
Just straight up LMAO at them not defending Greek patriarchy btw.
Shit, you ignorant fucking ape, they had chattel slavery too, and what the Spartans did to their helot class was as bad or worse than anything the South did.
Homie's off his meds again lmao.
Woah buddy everything is alright man. Take a chill pill.
You triggered them, sure.
You're gonna address the point they made though? How they had chattel slaves AND the alternative ancient slave systems you defended are literally worse?
No, they were right and I was wrong. Socrates and Plato had ideas different that typical Greek life, but they were still far from ideal by today's standards. It is something that I had to do more research on and I'm grateful for that.
That guy is a real fuck though, and can eat a whole cactus.
How about you know one goddamn thing about ancient slavery systems before you defend it based on shit you've seen fascist adjacent redditors who unironically want to bring those systems back say and then I'll chill?