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[-] Malica@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

It's also about gas masks, can't from a seal with a beard.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

That's the excuse, and the logic appears to make sense, but I think I recall it being tested and not really being much of a factor. That's what makes it a good dog whistle though. People will rush to say "it makes them unfit for duty because the equipment won't function" without looking further, so then the racist policies get protected and they don't have to actually justify the racism.

https://taskandpurpose.com/news/military-beards-break-gas-mask-seal/

[-] Malica@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago
[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Lack of evidence is not evidence of absence, just because a study hasn't been conducted does not mean beards don't interfere with wearing a gas mask.

Not having a jaw would probabry affect it too but there's no studies on that, yet nobody would claim it wouldn't

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

I've seen it tested, and it doesn't really. I have no idea if there's studies on that but, like you said, there isn't evidence, so why would we have this restriction? If they actually cared about this reasoning, they'd put money into testing it. However, disproving it would remove their ability to use it to justify exclusion, if this is the reason instead of functionality.

Just think about it. If you put enough force on beard hairs they are pretty firmly against the skin. They don't push the gas mask away. There aren't really going to be any gaps. It just doesn't logically make sense if you consider it for more than a second.

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I have a beard and it affected the seal and operation of a GP5 gas mask when I had to wear one, which is quite a feat if you've seen a GP5 mask

I'm not familiar with what the US is doing but politicians make retarded changes all the time knowing anything about what they are doing or how things work in the real world

this post was submitted on 30 Sep 2026
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