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[-] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Don't worry.

A better world is possible. And going one step further its not just possible, but inevitable.

Unfortunately to get there, about 200-300k years is going to have to pass before the pollutants we've dumped into the environment have been sequestered back underground\in the core by whichever plants and microbes manage to survive the next 20-50 years, because even if it's not looking like we will, some organism will survive us.

[-] Murse@slrpnk.net 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Even that isn't a guarantee. Non-human life is insanely resilient by human standards, but zoom out to literal entire observable universe with its trillions of planets, and so far we have a sample size of exactly 1 that's capable of supporting life, to include extremophiles. They'll outlive us for sure, but we have no idea if they'll outlive whatever downward spiral we've set our planet on.

In the context of the universe at large, "life, uh, does NOT find a way!" Life is a statistically insignificant fluke that's fragile as fuck.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

Not only that - but on earth, life has only about a billion years more before the sun renders this planet uninhabitable. Losing hundreds of thousands of years is a really high price even on the cosmic scale.

[-] moth@anarchist.nexus 1 points 2 days ago

Even that isn’t a guarantee.

no, it isn't a guarantee, but it's likely. moth won't tell you that addressing climate change isn't terribly important, or that millions or perhaps billions of people aren't going to die in the coming decades, but one small ray of hope is that it would be incredibly difficult for us to kill all of us. whether by climate change, or nuclear war, most scientists agree that it is unlikely to mean the extinction of humanity, let alone all life. and as long as some single cell organisms remain, the planet will eventually recover, and life will flourish again.

now, if we don't address climate change, then millions or perhaps billions of us will die in the coming decades. the grim reality of that, is that killing off that many humans would do wonders to address climate change. many people will starve, but the survivors will inherit a world in which nature retakes what it lost in a world suddenly empty of humanity. even a couple decades in such a world would drastically improve conditions for life.

will that mean humanity isn't doomed? well, no. everything has an end, even humanity. at some point, we will die off, even if we take perfect care of the planet. but that doesn't mean that life will end, and I'm sure whatever comes after us will be just as special and amazing and awe-inspiring as we were.

[-] Murse@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago

That's definitely a possibility. I'd guess that once we're gone, things will improve quite a lot, but I don't know enough to say that with any real confidence.

What I do know is that life is an incomprehensibly rare exception to the rule. Whether the damage we do is enough to nudge Earth back into the rule, we don't know. But it is the norm, and we're definitely not treating life as the rarity that it is. Even the extremophiles have their limit.

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