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Reddit is putting more limits on Old.Reddit.com
(arstechnica.com)
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Cutting off all the 3rd party mobile apps showed that in the long run it doesn't matter
It did because there was a noticeable quality bump after third party apps were cut off so while it didn't cause most users to leave, it made a substantiative jump further down the enshittification path that will eventually alienate everyone.
Absolutely. The quality drop on discussions was wild. I used to spend hours a week discussing on reddit. Now despite still using it to keep up to date on various topics, I rarely comment.
The post quality dropped quite a bit as well at that time. But that has always been a steady "eternal September" type of decline so it's harder to isolate the cause.
Reddit will become less and less useful to the AI giants for training if it doesn't contain new and ongoing deep communication like it once did.
Yeah it was shortly after that that I came here. I kept using both lemmy and reddit for a while but as the quality kept declining on reddit and the moderation (by admins) kept getting more intrusive, I had to bail. At the end I just decided to start openly calling for violence against fascists whenever the subject came up and waited to get banned, cause why not when I'm leaving anyways?
I mean, that jackass move is how I found Beehaw! But the reality is, many old. users didn't use apps in the first place. So while that was a clusterfuck, it wasn't surgically targeted at the very people who produce the content that makes Reddit valuable. Cutting off access to old. will be the final straw for me, and I'm going to guess I'm not alone. I don't want some cartoonish, ad-laden approximation of Reddit.
Same. Been here since the mass exodus and I deleted my account. I would still browse old.reddit without an account. That worked fine until a week or so ago. Been kinda looking at the new site but I hate it so much. Also the comment quality is absolute ass. I need to just be done with it.
That's how I found my instance as well.
Let's be absolutely clear, they didn't just kill third-party apps.
And to be fair, third party apps often bypassed their ads. So Reddit had a legitimate grievance there. The apps were contributing nothing, were collecting money from Reddit users, and the app I'm going to talk about, Apollo, actually had a recurring subscription if you weren't one of the first ones to buy it.
So Apollo was kind of the big dog and so Reddit basically went after them primarily. After the conversation did not go well for Reddit, Reddit's CEO started telling everyone that the Apollo dev tried to extort Reddit. The Apollo dev did make a joke about money changing hands, but he absolutely did not extort Reddit, and he brought the receipts. He transcribed the call... for those who didn't have time to listen to the actual recording, which he also shared.
With a big pie in their face, Reddit reacted by killing third-party apps entirely. And it was mostly based on a lie.
Reddit is run by the Epstein class anyway. Heck, I was banned just for suggesting longer prison terms for people who prey upon children. I guess they took that as a threat against their leadership? And/or certain politicians who they support (or who support them)?
Reddit has an ad-free subscription, Reddit Premium. The sensible thing for Reddit to do would have been to limit third-party app access to Premium subscribers, but they demanded the app developers pay up instead of the users.
I hope that some more people will come join us but you are correct that it will make no difference in the long run.