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[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 44 points 5 days ago

Capitalism can't function when the competition has to spend 5 years building a multi billion dollar chip fab.

[-] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 40 points 5 days ago

This is exactly how capitalism functions, it's happening under capitalism.

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago

I'm talking about the "controls" that people claim make capitalism work.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Buddy, five years is nothing...

And the crunch started in 2019, more than five years ago.

The real problem is coming tho:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASML

It is the largest supplier to the semiconductor industry and, as of 2026, the world's only manufacturer of extreme ultraviolet (EUV) lithography machines, which are required to manufacture the most advanced semiconductor chips. As of January 2026, ASML had a market capitalization of approximately $527 billion, making it Europe's largest technology company and one of its most valuable companies overall.

They are the only ones who can build the machine that goes into the building youre worried about.

That is the shit that right now js impossible to compete against, and the Dutch have it because of instead of constantly playing catch up, they leapfrogged. If that Dutch company doesn't sell you their machine, the building your talking about is pointless

The only way to beat them, is someone else takes the short term hit to leapfrog them.

That iswhat capitalism needs to function, a constant cycle of leapfrogs that leaves corporations in the dust so new ones have space to grow. When we prop up outdated corps, it doesn't work

[-] filister@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

And right now China is trying to catch up with that technology. They might be lagging today, but they are a huge market, and they will eventually catch up, maybe not completely but enough to be competitive.

Plus their LLMs need a lot less hardware resources for inferences.

Don't forget that all US frontier models are operating at a huge loss, because if they need to charge market rates their market will shrink significantly.

So this GPU crunch is forcing Chinese labs to innovate and find clever ways to achieve higher intelligence with constrained resources.

And cloud and computing cost will only go up now, due to exploding hardware prices, which will make the whole business model of the US frontier models even more unprofitable.

[-] Toes@ani.social 3 points 5 days ago

More like 25 years building a multi-trillion dollar fab just to get close to the same production rate and quality.

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