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[-] Malica@lemmy.zip 31 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

No it isn't. It's a complex issue with enough blame to spread around. Most of the fault lies with the fossil fuel companies that covered up climate change, lied for decades and bought the politicians.

[-] ElChinchilla@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Fossil fuels, petrochemical refining and usage, industrialized meat "farming," clothing/fast fashion, cement.

[-] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago
[-] wpb@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

If you can vote for politician A and politician B, and both of them are bought by the fossil fuel companies, to what extent are you to blame?

And if citizens can be held accountable for the actions and choices that their goverment has made, even if they have no real say in them, and that government has committed war crime after war crime abroad, killing literal millions, does that mean citizens are a legitimate target for retaliatory attacks? Was the Dresden firebombing justified? Was 9/11 justified? Were the atomic bombs dropped on Japan justified?

[-] davetortoise@reddthat.com 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Your options are much greater than voting for politician A or politician B

Dont let your political program be handed down to you.

[-] wpb@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I was responding to

Tbf they voted for them

hence my focus on voting, because that's what he was talking about. But also your broader comment is not a good argument for ageism. Plenty of members of the boomer generation exercised other political options than voting. They were not successful, but many of them did try. At any rate, blaming an entire generation for policy failures is about as valid as blaming Trump's policy failures on folks who voted for Harris.

[-] davetortoise@reddthat.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Sure, but I dont think they as a generation did nearly enough regarding climate change specifically.

And as far as voting goes, they pretty regularly made up the core voter base of administrations which denied or ignored climate change

[-] wpb@lemmy.world 1 points 54 minutes ago

Have you considered directing your ire at the folks who've bought our politicians to advocate for pro-fossil fuel policies, and the folks who bought our media to popularize pro-fossil fuel positions instead of at their victims?

[-] gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 7 hours ago
[-] wpb@lemmy.world 1 points 56 minutes ago

I figured people could extrapolate, but here goes for your benefit:

If you can vote for politicians P1 through PN where N is an integer greater than or equal to 1, and all of them are bought by the fossil fuel companies, to what extent are you to blame?

[-] MyVeryRealName@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Democrats have a better record on climate change than Republicans do

[-] Denfa@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Only so much as was necessary to keep the carrot on the stick

[-] wpb@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Sure, but making it worse at a slightly slower rate is still making it worse. The most recent democratic presidential candidate was pro fracking.

[-] teuniac_@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

That only holds true for the US. Plenty of choice where I grew up.

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