No war but the class war.
You're just working for the billionaires when you post divisive nonsense like this.
It baffels me how many here seem to think that climate change is a billionaire problem. Are you really serious about this? (genuine question)
What makes you think that way? Its so obviously not true.
Look around you. Imagine you can see CO2. Coming out of the cars around you, the airplanes overhead, trucks and cargo ships delivering your consumer goods, tractors and harvesters on the nearby fields. Are the cars Ferrairs? The planes private jets? The trucks and cargo ships transporting exquisite furniture? The farmers producing kobe beef?
Must be comfortable in your world...
I'm sorry, who has the hundreds of millions of dollars to spend on buying elections, lobbying politician, and putting out propaganda to make sure that policies continue to favor consumption of fossil fuels, use of cars, lax environmental regulations for businesses, wars, and growth at any cost oriented consumption?
Is it the people driving in the cars on their way to work because they can't afford to live close to where they work and there's no adequate public transportation to get there? Last I checked it wasn't.
People do have a responsibility to organize for collective action, but simply blaming them for living in the environment they were born into is missing the point on both moral culpability and practical action.
It's grandma's fault IF she voted for climate unfriendly folks. Else, this is just edgy genz ageism. Ageism isn't cool.
My parents and grandparents on both sides were/are straight ticket Republican. Told me climate change was a hoax.
Now parents tell me "well we figure oh well we will be dead by the time really bad stuff happens".
This stereotype exists for a fucking reason.
Millennial and genz ageism. Which makes me wonder what'll happen when the last GenXer dies, millennials are still whining about student loans and not being able to afford a house
Plot twist, none of them actually do anything about climate change
So are boomers responsible for everything that's wrong in the world now or just climate change?
Rich boomers are. Like actually rich.
And the poor boomers that vote conservative because they believe in hierarchies, like my parents. The ones that vote for wars and defunding education and are pro corporations.
No, its clearly the kids who are at fault.. if they were born 50 years sooner they coulda fixed it
Ah yes, I remember when my grandmother spent a century undermining scientific research on climate change through a massive campaign of exaggerating scientific uncertainty and overwhelming news media all while increasing consumption worldwide to 103 million barrels per day and promoting the development of the military-industrial complex to secure her interests
Did your Grandma vote for and openly support the massive campaign of exaggerating scientific uncertainty and overwhelming news media all while increasing consumption worldwide to 103 million barrels per day and promoting the development of the military-industrial complex to secure her interests?
If so, then yes she is also at fault for the reason it isn't Cold in October anymore.
My grandma was not allowed to vote in the Chinese nor Indian elections.
Oh another thing my grandmother is personally responsible for is fomenting working class infighting to keep people squabbling and not looking upwards at the people who are the real cause of problems. That was also her specifically.
Speak for yourself I'm wrapped in my blanket, but thats because of massive draft in my apt
No way, me too!
Damn, can't believe those boomers and the way they're abusing the means of production consciously and not as victims of propaganda like the rest of the working class!
The Trump administration officially eliminated the 2009 EPA "endangerment finding," stripping the federal government of its legal authority to regulate greenhouse gas emissions.The administration rolled back regulatory requirements for automakers, loosening curbs on gasoline-powered vehicle pollution. Trump has heavily promoted a "drill, baby, drill" energy agenda, easing limits on industrial pollutants and attempting to keep aging fossil-fuel infrastructure online. He routinely mocks climate science on social media, frequently pointing to severe winter weather or downward revisions in worst-case climate projections as supposed evidence against global heating.The most uneducated buffoon in history stands at a podium, bloated with self-importance, lips pursed like a carnival barker ready to sell turd milk to the unsuspecting. He grins a grotesque smirk stretched across his face as he scrawls his name onto a hollow decree, a sham celebration of the dismantling of knowledge itself. The Department of Education falls, not with a bang, but with wheezing verbs, suffocated under the weight of his own staggering ignorance. Surrounding him are the usual suspects: cowards in expensive suits, servile sycophants clapping like trained seals, and racist opportunistic ghouls picking clean the bones of democracy. Liars, fools, and thieves all parasites fattening themselves on the hardships of the many. They stand in rigid formation, dead-eyed and soulless, their allegiance sworn not to country, not to principle, but to power, and the dark, festering rot that clings to it. And there he is the convicted wrong, the living embodiment of septic tank spew, his voice a noxious fog of grift and grievance. He lectures the world on right and wrong, irony clawing at the walls, desperate to escape the grotesque theatre of his moral void. The stomach turns, the air curdles, and for a moment, history itself recoils watching, in horror, as the great American experiment teeters on the precipice, led by a man who couldn't spell "precipice" if his life depended on it.
I don't hate 'Muricans (with about a 60% notable exception for those who voted orange, or sat idly by)
But I HATE 'Murica
It has always been a shitty, cruel, vulgar place
No it isn't. It's a complex issue with enough blame to spread around. Most of the fault lies with the fossil fuel companies that covered up climate change, lied for decades and bought the politicians.
Fossil fuels, petrochemical refining and usage, industrialized meat "farming," clothing/fast fashion, cement.
Tbf they voted for them
If you can vote for politician A and politician B, and both of them are bought by the fossil fuel companies, to what extent are you to blame?
And if citizens can be held accountable for the actions and choices that their goverment has made, even if they have no real say in them, and that government has committed war crime after war crime abroad, killing literal millions, does that mean citizens are a legitimate target for retaliatory attacks? Was the Dresden firebombing justified? Was 9/11 justified? Were the atomic bombs dropped on Japan justified?
Not everyone is an American
Your options are much greater than voting for politician A or politician B
Dont let your political program be handed down to you.
I was responding to
Tbf they voted for them
hence my focus on voting, because that's what he was talking about. But also your broader comment is not a good argument for ageism. Plenty of members of the boomer generation exercised other political options than voting. They were not successful, but many of them did try. At any rate, blaming an entire generation for policy failures is about as valid as blaming Trump's policy failures on folks who voted for Harris.
Sure, but I dont think they as a generation did nearly enough regarding climate change specifically.
And as far as voting goes, they pretty regularly made up the core voter base of administrations which denied or ignored climate change
october used to be dry, we had torrential rainfall yesterday
Your kids are Monday morning quarterbacking. And your grandkids will be tearing you a new butthole for all the stuff you're not fixing right now.
It's not about what they failed to fix, it's about what they actively fucked up.
As a voting block, their demographic consistently did the opposite of "Plant trees under which shade you will never sit." At every turn they sacrificed their children's future for short term profit.
Boomers deserve their selfish reputation.
Boomers deserve their selfish reputation.
You'll deserve it too in 2076. You're doing something wrong. I know this because you're a human being.
Don’t panic yet. Give corporations and their store-bought politicians time to convince us it’s normal.
It's scary and yet many people refuse to believe in climate change. I've had argument with a denier on social media. I can tell that the person is not being deliberately malicious, because he did let up on some points, but he's the type to kick the can down the road and hopelessly hoping to deal with the problem later on. I think a lot of people who handwaves the seriousness of climate change prefer to look the other way. I know far too many people who are like this even if it's not about climate change.
I've been the weird environmentally conscious kid for more than 30 years. People's attitudes haven't changed. The arguments haven't changed. You'll still find people who immediately get excited about global warming, because they like warm weather.
Some people are just astonishingly stupid, and yet, they walk around and talk and have jobs and can appear to be normal. That's because they are normal. It is normal to be stupid.
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