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And where do you draw the line?
For example, do you think CSAM should be legal as long as those in the material are fictional?
If you think that is not okay, would it make a difference to you if those in the material were not "realistic" (but still underage)?
I don't think people are suggesting it should be illegal because they personally don't want to see it, but rather because they believe that it is damaging to society as a whole.
drawn pornographic depcitions are generally legal and protected by the first amendment in the united states, even if the artist explicitly states the characters are minors.
Uh huh. Kinda sidestepped all my questions there. Where do you draw the line?
So, "drawn" kiddie porn is legal in the US. What about realistic AI generated kiddie porn? Is that protected by the first ammendment?
Do you think it should be?
Should you be allowed to distribute it, or do you feel its okay only if it stays in your personal collection?
las I checked it was being decided by the courts because the laws aren't very clear and neither is the first amendment. I think that it's legality probably should be handled on a case by case basis until people understand the technology better because "realistic" is unfortunately too vague for me to feel comfortable wanting laws using (imagine a "realistic" oil painting getting outlawed).
The usual line drawn is photorealistic. Mostly because they don't want that used as a defense for the real thing.
I don't draw a line. If something 100% made up upsets you, nobody us putting your nose in it.
Your "they believe that it is damaging to society as a whole" comment is terrifying to me, because a lot of people in power believe that the mere existence of some people is "damaging to society as a whole".
Yes. As long as the image is not created through raping somebody, it's morally okay, since no real person was violated.
Anything which requires violating somebody to be produced.
The morality is actually a little greyer there. There is research showing that consuming cartoon or otherwise artificially drawn CSAM does in fact raise the likelihood of the person who consumes it actually committing an act of abuse against a child, instead of being an effective substitute to prevent such acts.
Therefore, it may be a good idea to ban such images even though their production is harmless.
It's a difficult area of research, which is why it's a shame that we need more data on the issue to inform our laws on banning or not banning artificially produced CSAM.
Do you have the link to the paper?