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San Diego County jumped into California’s sprawling ghost gun fight this week, suing a 3-D printing filament manufacturer it says hocks material for homespun firearms in violation of state law.

Working with the Giffords Law Center, the county counsel sued manufacturer Polymaker, alleging the company made a “strategic business choice” to market and sell 3-D printer filament to Californians for the express purpose of building illegal weapons. The polymer filament is sold in spools that feed into 3-D printers, allowing the devices to form designs created by their owners.

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[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

They are going about this all wrong. Just make possession of an illegal firearm a crime and enforce it.

[-] riskable@programming.dev 6 points 9 hours ago

But then I'd be guilty! I have some Polymaker filament right here! It's still new in the box and everything...

Shit, maybe there's a sketchy filament black market where I can fence it...

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Sorry I misspoke. It’s fixed. Basically illegal firearms should be enforced better.

[-] grillgamesh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

all firearms are legal.

the difference, is that some firearms require certain permits to possess under the 1986 Hughes amendment to the NFA.

for possession of a machine gun, you either need a transferrable (any registered MG pre May 1986, extremely rare, and this in good condition are literally worth more than most houses), or an FFL-31-SOT, which allows you to manufacture "dealer samples".

Suppressors (AKA Silencers), and Short Barrel Rifles/Shotguns are now fully transferrable under a form 4473; due to the recent Texas ruling against the NFA.

the requirement for Form 4473s; however, are likely to change due to the semi recent elimination of most of the tax stamp requirements for transferring NFA items; which was only allowed (per the supreme court) because congress has the constitutional power to enact and enforce taxes, but they do not have the power to regulate firearm circulation. the NFA is on its last legs. I will celebrate the day it is finally killed. The victims of the ATF's enforcement over the years deserve renumeration... or at the very least, an apology.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

I can’t possess some firearms legally, therefore many firearms are effectively not legal. How it came to be like that is largely irrelevant.

I’ll be surprised if that changes.

[-] grillgamesh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Getting your FFL-31-SOT is pretty easy. It's just some paperwork. The tricky part is the taxes and license fees; which are admittedly pretty stupidly high. IIRC they're somewhere in the range of 4 digits - 5 digits.

using what the ATF classifies as "Destructive Devices" (40mm grenades, mortars, etc) requires tax stamps still, and some paperwork, registering who has it and where it is, etc... but they are legal.

If you're a convicted Federal Felon who has served their sentence, you can petition the courts to have your right to possess firearms reinstated. Of those who petition, most get their right reinstated; in the pro-gun areas. You only get one shot though IIRC; so you should go to a court in a heavily red state to have the best chance. It's a federal-level decision, so pretty much any federal court should do.

With the way the current administration is going; as much as I disagree with some of their decisions, the NFA is well and truly on its way to the grave.

Every law abiding citizen should be able to possess and operate any firearm, regardless of fire rate, caliber, or form factor.

Good luck, brother.

[-] riskable@programming.dev 1 points 8 hours ago

Bah! You ruined my hilarious joke 🤣

[-] Korkki@lemmy.ml -1 points 9 hours ago

How? Already If you want a above board gun you will just buy actual gun. If you are up to some shady shit or just an enthusiast, you go for 3d printed guns. You can't effectively enforce this especially in the US unless you ban printers, preferably federally and ban 3d printing as a practice. You can't effectively scrub the models from the internet, you can't stop people from printing and you can't really enforce distribution because everybody with a printer, will and a little knowhow can make their own.

The real news here is the filament company are complete doofuses if they are marketing their high strength filament especially for gun making. That's just like if OpenAI was marketing their new cutting edge image gen AI model as something meant for making deepfake P*rn of celebrities. One would think that they would cover their asses with more neutral wording and description regarding their product. That is a PR and legal problem bound to happen.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

The same way that they enforce other crimes.

Murdering someone is illegal. Murdering someone while being involved in a gang is extra illegal and affects sentencing for example.

Caught with possession of a “ghost” gun? Insta-jail. Or maybe increase the charge to terrorism.

The legal system has tons of options at their disposal. Going after filament manufacturers is like going after black powder suppliers.

[-] Korkki@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago

The legal system has tons of options at their disposal. Going after filament manufacturers is like going after black powder suppliers.

Nor arguing that this isn't removed.

The same way that they enforce other crimes.

Yeah and the point was that there is no practical way to do that. It's much harder to control these things than just regular stolen, misplaced or otherwise illegally acquired guns. You cant use deterrence when you are speaking about a tool that you are just going to use to commit crimes that are are going the be more severe that just an illegal firearms possession. Ofc everybody who are above board and law abiding will stop even thinking about 3d printer firearms. However if somebody is considering murder you think they care if they potentially get +5 years added to their sentence if they do it with self printed weapon instead of regular firearm?

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Yes, that’s how the system works today. Your sentencing is affected by specifics of your crime.

It’s not really a deterrent. Murderers are gonna murder. I lived above one and they murdered with a pillow and telephone cable. I also sat on a trial that put a murderer away. Their circumstances affected their sentencing drastically.

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 0 points 8 hours ago

If it's so unenforceable, why isn't it an issue in other countries? Even ones that have nearly the same number of guns as America? 🤔

You still have to buy bullets.

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