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Haven't we had enough yet? Can't we please just wake up tomorrow morning, and there be no more transphobia or any other forms of bigotry? No more corruption? And wealth be distributed fairly? The human species has a finite amount of time on this earth. Each human has a finite amount of time on this earth. Can we just put our feet down and say enough with the unnecessary drama?

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[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Well, 1/3 of, say, America supports what's going on, and another 1/3 doesn't really care either way. Even in just that last third, caring enough to take on enormous personal cost is extremely rare.

Basically, how, given massive public support, you win, was never the question.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Wanna see how many people are indifferent to politics? Let's see how successful the upcoming Harry Potter series is. People who care about politics will either boycott or pirate it. The far right will boycott because Snape is black and the far left will boycott because of Rowling's transphobia. But the series is going to still be massively successful because there are enough people who don't care about either of those things strongly enough to boycott.

[-] MountainVeil@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

On the other hand, the owner class shits their pants over a 5% decline in growth. I'm sure even that fraction of 1/3 is well capable of causing more than that. Like, they would hire private militaries to attack us as they did in the coal wars.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Well, by that logic, the private militaries in question should have just gone on strike, as well. It wouldn't take many to foul up the operation, right? There's just way, way more public support for life to go on like normal, than there is for whatever fringe party you're pushing to seize power. (Or for a raging power vacuum, if you're the kind of person who doesn't have an alternative society ready in detail)

To be fair, at the polls, this basic logic works. Normal voters are kind of predictable and inert, and elections are routine and safe, so that 1% of activists do make it rain. If you really mean business, you should go and sign up to doorknock - for an established party, or a fringe party. If nothing else, you'd get to see what we're talking about first hand.

If that's too big an ask for you personally - and let's be real, most people on Lemmy wouldn't ever do that - you should stop talking about people's livelihoods and personal safety. Hopefully, you're not in that picture.

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