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What are you talking about? The first term had people crying about kids in cages and the abhorrent conditions in the concentration camps at the border and the insane practice of separating parents from their children.
People didn't mention that Obama was the one to make those camps, but before we get into that we gotta adress the basic reality that people were freaking out about how Trump was using ICE back then too. Fucked to talk about gaslighting while you're denying basic reality lmao
This is literally Russian talking points
Acknowledging the reality that ICE was a massive part of the outcry against trump in his first term is "russian talking points"? Jesus christ Russiagate has you guys whipped into a xenophobic frenzy. Goebbels would be bored with how simple you would be to corral. If Putin said the sky is blue, would you suddenly insist it is black?
Anyway:
I'm a liberal
You're a xenophobic conspiracist. What you define yourself as does not matter, what matters is what you believe, what you say and what you do. And what you do is support genociders, what you say is that critique of democrats is some nefarious foreign plot and what you believe is that basic facts can be disregarded if they are russian. This makes you a right wing conspiracist.
Also I edited the comment, look at it again.
How am I xenophobic?
I spelled that out pretty clearly. If youre going to do this lazy obtuse thing then you have to at least do it about something that has not been spelled out explicitly.
I'm anti genocide. Who am I xenophobic against!?
You are voting for democrats, you are voting for genocide. The rest has been spelled out to you. Go and read the comment, quote me the part you pretend not to understand but you really just have a gut reaction of frustration to, without any real counterargument because it is ultimately correct.
So what you're saying is that Russia tells the truth.
Russia is imperialist at best.
Zeroth of all, what’s worse than being imperialist?
First of all, even if it were imperialist, how is that relevant in the slightest?
Second of all, previously:
Lmao nato exists specifically because of Russia post WW2.
Partially correct. The territory making up the modern Russian Republic was also part of the Soviet Union, which is what NATO was created to destroy.
NATO is an anti-communist alliance created and staffed by the Nazis after world war 2. This is a bad thing. West Germany managed to have more Nazis in government after the war, in large part due to NATO.
What does that have to do with the previous statement?
Irrelevant. You're describing objective historical facts as "Russian talking points."