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Yeah but they asked about first gen Nissan Leafs which, yeah, none of those batteries are holding any type of up unless you regularly drive less than 30 miles day.
Yeah they didn’t have thermal management like the rest of the full sized EVs. Even the second gen leafs have iffy ranges and charging speeds. They kinda set EVs back a bit for a lot of early adopters I know.
Last time I checked the majority of people travel under 5 miles for most car trips.
Commute alone is about triple each way on average. US census has the data published. It makes sense when you consider an average car owner in the US and how big it is and how many people don't regularly use cars in densely populated major cities.
Between this comment and someone saying that tarantulas are as smart as a smart dog, I sometimes almost forget how completely out of touch with reality a lot of people here are.
Reality, or just different countries? US has really cheap petrol to make up for it though. But sure, that stat was from the UK if it helps. Suppose it might be different in some others.
Are... Are you suggesting tarantulas aren't as smart as dogs? -Tarantula (owns a beagle)
Each trip or each day? Average commute is 30 miles a day.
But no need to really debate it, the first gen Nissan Leaf design is notorious for being pretty harsh on the battery pack, compared to most other prominent electric models that tend to do better than expected. I think it should be fine to admit that some models might not have the staying power one would have hoped. Just like sometimes happens in gasoline models.
Look, I'm not saying a first Gen leaf would not meet 95% of my needs and I'm not saying that I would not buy one if you could just convince my partner but I doubt the majority of Americans travel less than five miles for car trips.
It's disingenuous to say "EV batteries actually hold up fine!" and then follow it up with "Well, you don't drive that much anyway," when presented with evidence otherwise. I know you're not the OP of the other comment, but c'mon, this is a linear chain of thought.
Tbh I don't even drive, growing up I couldn't afford it. I don't even know anyone who drives more than 16km a day which is the same distance I cycle to work - I do know a couple who drive the same distance I cycle, I get there faster as I can go faster than traffic jams.
Its probably somewhat location dependent, that stat is from the UK.