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[-] 1984@lemmy.today 85 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

America is crazy. A women does shoplifting and officers shoot at her? I don't know if you guys know how insane your country is.

Dont you have some law that officers only can use deadly force when their life or someone else's life is in danger?

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 44 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Not just shoplifting but literally stole a pack of diapers. People don't steal diapers for fun, that's obviously someone who was out of options, and took the only option left to her

Edit to add: apparently she didn't even steal the diapers! Some customer said they thought she did and she didn't have the receipt (because who grabs the receipt when they go and buy a single consumable item?)

[-] 1984@lemmy.today -4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Shops are also insured so it doesn't even affect the owner. Some super rich insurance company gets to pay for a new pack of diapers.

Compare this with what's going on in France, where thousands of immigrants are rioting and burning down stores and cars. Millions of dollars in damage. The police there still just use tear gas and rubber bullets and haven't killed anyone.

America is in its own league of police brutality.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 14 points 5 days ago

You might be getting your news from Fox about France.

[-] 1984@lemmy.today -4 points 5 days ago

I dont watch TV news at all, but ive watched YouTube videos from the riots filmed by ordinary people. That's probably as close to the truth you can get without being there.

[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 10 points 5 days ago

As is commonly known, in France they brand the word "immigrant" on the forehead of immigrants for easy identification.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 5 points 4 days ago

As some late night host said (Stewart?): do you think immigrants are the ones who are rioting IN FRANCE?

Let me give you a hint: one of the places they rioted was the Bastille square.

[-] 1984@lemmy.today -2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Videos show black men with red, white, green flags so yes, it's not the native French. :)

Of course it's immigrants.

[-] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 4 days ago

Have you seen the French national team? Judging people by their skin color is... how do you call it...

[-] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago

Are you trying to say the rioters in France are Mexicans?

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 4 days ago
[-] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago

AFAIK the protests have nothing to do with Palestine, and for far right like RN it is really easy to plant someone and to say "see? This is all caused by immigrants, if you vote for us we have a Final Solution"

French historically are known for violent protests, the Versailles wasn't always a museum, it used to be a house with people living there. People with heads still attached to their bodies.

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago

People on the right? This is about using your eyes and brain. :) Anyway, we can agree to disagree here.

[-] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah, it's that far right movement that seems to affect US and Europe and for some strange reason all those parties in different countries all align on one thing: that Russia is a friend

[-] the_flying_pig@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago

She was also driving in the direction of the police officers. What else were they supposed to do? Stand out of they way? Not shoot a one year old child?

[-] TheVoiceOfRaison@thelemmy.club 28 points 5 days ago

We haven't seen the body warn yet, but the issue is why is shooting at her automatically justified in this context? Driving at officers or not. Why did officers put themselves in the position to be driven at, why not just tail her and pull her over, why not get her registration and go to her address. There are far more alternative options than (as seems to the standard) going for maximum force first.

[-] bampop@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

why is shooting at her automatically justified

The cop saw her holding up a baby. He was shooting at the baby.

Presumably this was justifiable self defense because the baby was the reason the mother needed diapers and if she hadn't needed diapers the cop would not be fearing for his life at that moment

[-] TheVoiceOfRaison@thelemmy.club 0 points 5 days ago
[-] the_flying_pig@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

We are being very sarcastic, the disassociation helps me process a tragedy like this. There is absolutely no context that would make this justifiable, the fact that a judge still deemed it so shakes me to my core.

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Tailing people ends up in high showed chases and kills others, not really an option.

[-] joeschmoe@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

Surely you are not only thinking now, that America is crazy, right? I mean, they legit elected a fucking child rapist to be their president. Only in America™, ladies and gentlemen.

[-] Napster153@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Freedom to the fullest, especially to exploit.

In the Land of The Free, you are obligated to kneel before your betters.

[-] dropdrip@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago

Land of the free that made slaves to build [it].

[-] angband@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Nope. Most state laws shield cops from trouble as long as they were trying to be a cop and openly doing cop stuff. There would be a review, but the review is just to establish the cop was doing cop stuff. Even not following "procedure" isn't enough to remove the veil of legitimacy.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

A women does shoplifting and officers shoot at her?

Cops love to shoot people. You barely need to give them justification.

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Dont you have some law that officers only can use deadly force when their life or someone else’s life is in danger?

Qualified Immunity

Im sure a bootlicker like you will absolutely adore the concept.if only the police in France could just murder who they want... right? Then the cost of living crisis will be resolved and the schools will be fully funded.

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 3 points 4 days ago

Thanks but I dont see how I'm a bootlicker for thinking it's awful how police shoots someone?

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Wtf is this comment?

[-] saimen@feddit.org -5 points 5 days ago

I blame the liberal gun laws. Because everyone potentially could be armed police officers constantly feel life threatened.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

That's no excuse.

Soldiers being sent into literal combat against enemy troops have rules of engagement that don't allow them to fire unless fired upon. Why do police dealing with civilians have less-strict rules of engagement?

[-] 1984@lemmy.today 5 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Not to mention other countries also having crime, and criminals with guns. They don't use their weapons against people who are not a danger to anyone.

The mentality in America is difficult to understand from the outside. It's very evil.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's difficult from the inside too.

The problem is people here are used to it being "the way things are" so they don't go through the mental exercise of trying to understand it. It's seen as perfectly normal, so it's never questioned.

In the US the sky is blue, water is wet, and police are assumed to have been justified any time they kill someone.

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