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[-] joeschmoe@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Idk man, to me, it feels like we are further from AGI than fusion reactors actually being hooked up to the grid, considering LLMs are still just glorified autocorrects, needing a ton of prompt injections from their providers. And yet, the AI companies make it seem like it's right around the corner (obviously, because $$$), whereas to me it feels like we are still at least 50 years away. Maybe AGI will be the next fusion generator chase.

[-] kromem@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Ironically there was notable news in the fusion reactor space this week as Gemini 4, building on the work of Matt Landreman and GPT-6 Astra a little while ago, expanded counterexamples to Grad's conjecture which had claimed exact solutions for controlling a key aspect of fusion were impossible.

So fusion may actually be more around the corner thanks to the advances of capabilities of AI which helped prove that the fusion problems aren't as hard as they were thought to be for decades.

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

And if you actually believe that, I have an amazing business proposition to you. So, there is a bridge in NY, and I can sell it to you for very little money...

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz -1 points 3 days ago

Building on other people's work to provide examples for something is actually one of the things an LLM can be good for.

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Evidently, the only thing it's good for is providing endless dribble for snake oil salesmen to scam people with. There is an endless barrage of "our latest and greatest magic just solved a problem" and when the dust settles it's always some combination of exaggeration, lies, misunderstanding, and stolen work.
Even from my very limited understanding of high level fusion related math, I can bet it's the same case here. At best they're not lying and they provided a proof for some old math theorem. What I know is that fusion isn't "one proven math problem away", and I bet even if they're not lying it will not help that much if at all.

[-] joonazan@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 days ago

They did manage to do something different, though. I thought at one point that proof assistants should offer to automatically upload your proofs to a central repository so everyone can benefit from them. But such a system would require many to opt in for it to be useful.

What AI does best is giving you existing solutions. It even adapts them if they don't quite fit. Because many people now discuss their ideas with AI, ideas may spread the same way as well when the conversations are used as training data.

So no, definitely not AGI but valuable. Though as typical of explosively growing startups the value does not come from the technology but from activity bordering on criminal that lawmakers can't keep up with.

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Because many people now discuss their ideas with AI, ideas may spread the same way as well when the conversations are used as training data.

As a training data it's possible less then useful, unsupervised data like that is actively harmful. As a central repository of everyone's private conversations it can be in a way useful, but I can't understand how anyone could be OK with a private company reselling your most private data.

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