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[-] iByteABit@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

it’s almost impossible to bring up marx without people becoming hysterical

It's even sadder when you think that not so long ago it used to be a socialist country (with its flaws of course)

[-] vclp@lemmy.ml 1 points 23 minutes ago

hi, responding late cause i double-checked a couple of things in order to not risk spreading misinfo since i didnt live back then. hoxha is very responsible for this view that people now have of socialism here and because i dont want to paste a wall of text of known history, ill focus on just one big problem ive noticed with socialist education back then. very few people were actually educated in socialism and it seems people who were in good terms with the party kept marx and lenin's book for home decor. today i checked some didactic book on historical materialism that was taught in universities back then and it was crap. 0 arguments, just statement after statement after statement. it didnt even talk about historical materialism. there were statements citing hoxha saying china never had a dictatorship of the proletariat among other bold statements lol. so long story short, ML was mystified before and after regime* change, to make a stupid analogy, it went from being doctrine of god to doctrine of the devil overnight. to me that's very disappointing because how does one fuck up that bad, marx is supposed to help you understand how the world works, how it evolved to this point and so on, so scientific socialism is supposed to explain/demistify capitalism, not be obscured/turned into a religion. so because of this + western influence which is a given, people here now think socialism = mecha-hoxha in charge.

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