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[–] Mudface@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Canada is going to elect a conservative government, too

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago (10 children)

The whole world is shifting hard to the right. It's pretty crazy to see happen in real time.

Something something "weak men" something something "hard times"

[–] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Male fragility will kill us all.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (26 children)

Male Fragility Will Kill Us All

You're a fool if you think that far-right conservatism is exclusive to men (or that only allowing women in power would solve it)

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Women buying into patriarchy doesn't make it any less of a phenomenon or any less dangerous.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Good thing that comment I replied to said "male fragility" and not "the patriarchy" or I'd probably agree with them.

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[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Ah yes, let's red herring with gender politics and sexism.

Seriously, this isn't productive, it's toxic, and belongs back on Reddit and back on the gate communities there.

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[–] TwoGems@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It's due to all the propaganda BS everyone needs a fairness doctrine for media at this point

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is hilarious because I look at PP and all I see is a weak man and yet that's what we will probably elect.

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We won't elect PP. We will elect whoever isn't Mr.T.

PP isn't doing very well even for the conservatives but they will still vote for him and the swinger voters have already made up thier mind and switched to the CPC.

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[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They don't need to elect anything. Fascism is inherently militaristic.

If the US goes full fascist, then it's only a matter of time.

No place in the world will be safe.

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most places in the world were never safe from the US anyway, it has had aggressively competitive foreign policy for the last 80 years.

[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

No argument there, but it can always get worse.

[–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Meh, the USA won't invade Canada. Even if we go full fascist Canada is way better as a frenemy.

Our largest trading partner won't be able to give us a reason to invade.

Mexico on the other hand should watch out, given the amount of scapegoating our right wing throw their way.

[–] TSG_Asmodeus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Mexico is their largest trading partner now, just a heads up.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah but the fascists are already talking about invading them. And like hey, last time we did it we got our most profitable state out of it

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Facts have never had an effect on conservative feelings, despite one of their favorite sayings being “facts don’t care about your feelings”

[–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Who's? Canada's or the USA? In both cases that's false.

The Canadian economy is inextricably linked to ours (USA). Any plans they have to deal with a racist USA has to take that, and the military disparity, into account. Canada is in a very shit situation if the USA falls to fascism. Appeasement is their only realistic option.

[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Canada is in a very shit situation if the USA falls to fascism. Appeasement is their only realistic option.

Ah, yes, the famous stopper of fascist expansion: Appeasement.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Canada has already been identified as a valid target for decades due to South Parks "blame Canada."

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Poilievre isn't conservative. He's pretty much far right.

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[–] Powerpoint@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Two years still. Lots can change and people will see through the piss poor attempt at the Conservative rebranding of Poilievre.

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[–] banneryear1868@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

We basically flip between Liberal and Conservative on schedule. Trudeau took a gamble on positive numbers calling the last election early but I think his brand is essentially dead. PP is getting a huge image treatment right now if you've seen his tanned face and new persona, like they're throwing full weight in to making him relatable, and you can tell what a massive effort that is lol. I don't see too much of a material difference between LPC and CPC though, CPC is more shameless but the things LPC does to sovereign nations inside our country should be setting off more alarm bells than they are. People forget those treaties are with the Crown not the Canadian government. Also fuck the Liberals for not changing the vote, they campaigned so hard on that and I can't believe I fell for it first time around. NDP are polling decently well too but with the voting being what it is they're screwed. Although I'm not a huge fan of Jagmeet and how he became leader and think NDP need to do better with their branding and messaging, right now it's like "we're liberals but more authentic" but they need to be more forthcoming with the economic vision and why it will benefit everyone regardless of their identity. A straight white tradesman needs to get the message that he has just as much interest in voting NDP as a nonconforming individual, and I think they really need to tie these messages back to the economic benefit and power of having solidarity with others in achieving material political goals.

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