this post was submitted on 14 Sep 2023
620 points (96.4% liked)

politics

19135 readers
2318 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] natarey@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Always a great sign when your geopolitical neighbors quietly start planning for you to go full fascist.

[–] Harpsist@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Canada also has plans for if America ever invades them.

But why would they? Let some other country mine resources that you buy at a steal.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I actually have a crackpot theory that Trump's little attempt to buy Greenland (yeah, that happened) was really part of a plan Putin had dictated. And that Putin was trying to align USA+Greenland, Russia, and then Canada. Which is like 25% of Earth's land mass.

I base it on nothing more than maps and stuff.

Like if Putin is trying to play RISK...

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] muse@kbin.social 68 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Hope that involves a plan for letting lgbt folks immigrate to safety instead of apologizing 80 years later like they did to the casualties of Nazi Germany who were denied safe passage

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I've heard Canadians claiming they're already letting LGBT folks from the US achieve refugee status, but that's strange because Canada has a treaty with the US explicitly stating that they can't take in refugees arriving from the US. So it seems like Canadian citizens think they're taking in LGBT refugees from the US, and will likely be confused and push back when people try to tell them that Canada literally can't take US refugees without the refugee doing a big, long legal song and dance. So my guess is that the Canada is going to claim they're already doing it (when they don't actually seem to) and then apologize again in 80yrs.

Edit: y'all wanna tell me how I'm wrong? As someone who's head will probably be on the chopping block should republicans win the next election, I would really like to know if I can count on Canada not turning me around should I find myself having to show up at the border with my belongings.

load more comments (5 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I've already checked. I've got enough qualifications that I can just migrate to Canada.

It'll be nice to teach them about what their summers are going to be like.

[–] Mudface@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Canada is going to elect a conservative government, too

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago (13 children)

The whole world is shifting hard to the right. It's pretty crazy to see happen in real time.

Something something "weak men" something something "hard times"

[–] TrismegistusMx@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

Male fragility will kill us all.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (26 children)

Male Fragility Will Kill Us All

You're a fool if you think that far-right conservatism is exclusive to men (or that only allowing women in power would solve it)

[–] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Women buying into patriarchy doesn't make it any less of a phenomenon or any less dangerous.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (25 replies)
load more comments (6 replies)
load more comments (12 replies)
[–] ikiru@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 year ago (10 children)

They don't need to elect anything. Fascism is inherently militaristic.

If the US goes full fascist, then it's only a matter of time.

No place in the world will be safe.

[–] fiat_lux@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most places in the world were never safe from the US anyway, it has had aggressively competitive foreign policy for the last 80 years.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (9 replies)
[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Poilievre isn't conservative. He's pretty much far right.

load more comments (5 replies)
load more comments (8 replies)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] gamer@lemm.ee 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As an American, please nuke us if Trump wins the next election.

[–] PM_ME_FEET_PICS@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I have some bad news for you.

load more comments (15 replies)
[–] millie@lemmy.film 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm both curious and personally invested on what their outlook on refugees would look like. I've definitely considered the possibility of having to flee to Canada as a trans woman, but I guess the question is how legitimately I'd be able to enter the country and whether I'd have to go into hiding once I get there.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago

Right now, yeah a trans person can seek asylum in Canada. But the leader of the Conservative Party is a culture war fashy type not too dissimilar from Ron Desantis. If he gets in, it'll be dark days north of the border too.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I'm genuinely confused as to why, knowing that the Conservative/Republican brand has always been to serve big business, deregulating while also lowering taxes for the wealthy while cutting services to working class families, why people en masse would vote for them.

I get it, 2 sides of the same coin and all that jazz, but one side of the coin is just greedy, while the other side of the coin is greedy and is actively stoking the fires of a civil war.

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] demlet@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm guessing the whole world has been doing some hard mulling since 2016...

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don't blame them. As an American I'm mulling the same.

I just hope their plan includes an asylum path for Americans sick of this doubling-down on ignorance. Not to say Canada isn't without their dumb dumbs either...

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Powerpoint@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We need electoral reform to avoid the same in Canada. The official opposition is actively siding with fascists.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Build a wall and make us pay for it!

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago

let me in. LET ME IN!!!!!

[–] Roundcat@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Is it them taking a hard right authoritarian shift?

load more comments (5 replies)

It sucks that that’s where we are but it’s smart.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I mean, Canada might get there first, right? I feel like we both are not doing so hot.

load more comments (12 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›