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I am a little frustrated, because I've been saying for like 3 years. If they didn't stop at genocide than they'll be nothing they won't compromise on. Back in 2023 I was arguing with other trans people saying that the liberals weren't on their side and they would throw them under the bus the moment it became politically acceptable to do so. Being dependent on a liberal party is more like being held hostage instead of gaining actual power.
Constantly chastising people that they have to support liberal politics anyway, even if they're doing imperialism (which isn't at all new), just normalizes that those horrible things will always happen and cannot be changed, they're just politically acceptable. Like it actually makes me feel like I'm going insane that genocide has become a normal, acceptable position, that we've realized after Palestine that most of the entire establishment are a bunch of Holden Bloodfeasts and things just keep going. Like, no, we're frogs in a pot of water being boiled. Imperialism isn't normal or okay.
So you decided to ally with Trump instead?
US elections are a zero sum game with two sides and only two sides
That means all anti-dem propaganda in the election is pro-rep propaganda
If you're saying to support socialists like Abdul in the primaries, I agree with you. But you're not saying that. You're saying not to trust Dems to be any better than Reps. That's Rep propaganda. The rules of the game say you're accidentally helping Trump.
There will never be a third party, the maths on FPTP don't support it. And you're not campaigning for voter reply reform. You're campaigning for people to abstain and let Trump have two more years of supermajority.
You've already had a chance to educate yourself on the maths of FPTP. Whether your bad faith is moral or intellectual doesn't matter, you're a fascist collaborator and you're attacking our rights as trans people. I have family in America and I don't want them to die, so be quiet.
This is liberal yaKKKubian tricknology make people believe that advocating for dual power is a bad thing. I'm not impressed that you're quite literally trying to emotionally manipulate people into thinking that if you don't support the Dems they're murderers or some shit. That only makes sense if you collapse of all reality into two outcomes "democrats win" and "republicans win." That's like absolutely defeatist, believing the only options that exist are government approved ones. that kind of attitude will let horrors go on forever without ever being challenged, I would genuinely rather die than just lie down and accept that. I support worker power so that both parties can't oppress us and we can stop them from terrorizing the rest of the world.
Shut up about your votes, I know you're being manipulative. You say that they're the lesser evil, but I guarantee you actually like liberals and just want people to stop talking about how they also kill people.
I AM trans, and no government has never actually supported me, I seriously doubt the effectiveness of the legal system in helping us, I got my medication from mutual aid, and other trans people are how I survive, the liberal party where I live has done none of this, the government's medical care is basically our enemy, I've been underdosed for years by my endocrinologist. You shut the fuck up about trans people. I disapprove of using our name to support genocidal liberals.
You are the fascist collaborator. Fuck the democrats, and fuck AmeriKKKa. I have friends in Iran and Lebanon and I don't want them to die. I've never seen Americans get shredded to pieces by bombs and displaced by the millions, all of you fucking Westerners will be fine by comparison even if the Republicans win again, you'll do fine. Maybe you people deserve to see just a fraction of what that's like after supporting it.
Mutual aid is great! But we're talking about an election in two days. If you write the name of the mutual aid group on your ballot, you've abstained.
People with the vision and strategy to do the right thing at the right time do mutual aid. People like us distribute hormones. People like you just complain on the internet. I'm glad that we strategists got you those hormones, but it doesn't make you a warrior. It just makes you alive.
So if you're not going to attend a protest or paint a crosswalk or run in a primary or get an over prescription, please be quiet and let the strategists work. We don't need you making our work harder. It's not gonna be as easy to distribute hormones if Trump declares martial law, and that's what you've been helping.
The strategists decided that the best course of action is to tell anti-genocide protesters to stfu about genocide and vote blue no matter who. As well as yelling at genocidee to stfu and get genocided quietly.
Brilliant strategy. Did you guys try "Orange Man Bad" or telling voters "If you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black." Or not yet?
You're not an anti-genocide protester, you're a lying whinger. In order to be a protester, you have to actually get out of your bed and go to a protest. This isn't a protest, it's a whinge. And it may well be a successful whinge in its goal of getting people to stay home so Trump can run for a third term and you can have that trans genocide you're desperate for.
So of course I'm getting to tell you to STFU, you genocide supporter. Every minute you're arguing with Me in the bowels of this comment section is a minute you're not talking to potential voters. You're never going to stop trying to kill trans people, but at least you can be trying to talk Me into killing My family instead of someone who might listen to your lies.
Right. We're all supposed to ignore the actual genocide carried out under the supervision and support of the Democrats and pretend anyone not willing to blindly support the genocide enabling democratic party is "desperate for trans genocide" lol.
Do you know if Democrats regret stealing the presidency from Bernie Sanders?
I'm an anti-genocide protester. I've attended a dozen anti-Israel protests in My city. I've helped plan these protests at the org meetings. You're not. You're a poser, trying to claim that whinging on the internet is a form of protest. Stolen fucking valour.
Anti-genocide protesters like Myself are concerned about Rs winning the US election because it will make our jobs harder. People aren't coming to the protests anymore because they're more concerned about Trump.
In two days, we'll find out how badly you, personally, fucked the anti-genocide protests and how badly you, personally, fucked Gazans.
You got bad memory? Or just bad faith arguments?
Democrats fucked Gazans. Democrats told everyone to stfu about the genocide and ignore it. I didn't.
If the genocide loving Democrats don't win bigly then that's their own fault. They will be winning seats for sure though. Just gotta wait and see how many.
I personally like to look at the silver lining in all this. The evil empire is getting destroyed from within by that orange monkey. That's a blessing for all the innocent people around the world suffering under US imperialism.
Look, Mx 7 day old account. You're a journalist. You are the media. On this website, we all create the narrative together.
And you're an anti-democrat journalist posting propaganda two days before the midterms, erasing all nuance and only going after the Ds. You haven't said one single word about the Rs. Your silence speaks volumes.
You're a right wing journalist. If the outcome of the election is right wing, it's your fault. If the outcome is neoliberal centrist almost-left, it's your failure as a fascist influencer.
I haven't said a single word about Rs in this exchange because you and I already agree that they are horrible. Not because I like Diaper-Don and his bullcrap.
No right winger refers to their Messiah as 'orange monkey'. Only thing good coming out of his 2nd term is him destroying the neoliberal order and the empire that Ds would've kept going.
If the outcome is right wing maintaining control then it's a failure of the democrats.
It's not their failure if they lose. They're paid to lose on purpose. It's their success, their win. And spreading their propaganda about how much they suck, that's doing their dirty work for them. That makes it your success too, as a right wing journalist.
The party contains bought cynics and legtist idealists. They win, the idealists force them to do good things. They lose, the cynics collect a paycheck. But you? You do this for free.
Of course I do it for free. I don't want money to say Free Palestine.
Nor do I want to get paid to keep reminding the world that we witnessed a genocide broadcast in 4K after being taught "Never Again" my entire childhood.
Do you make money telling lies and make excuses on behalf of the political party that funded and helped orchestrate the genocide?
You really could be making money though, helping the Republicans win the election. You could be a grifter like Blaire White. You're already spreading right wing propaganda. If you're gonna kill Gazans anyway, you might as well get that bag.
Now I'm not as amoral as you, I can't be complicit in genocide. But you could use your lack of moral compass for profit, like Chuck Schumer.
Instead, you help him lose for free.
I'm not Joe Biden nor Kamala Harris. They helped carry out the genocide, not i.
You're a right wing journalist helping Zionists elect a fascist government to funnel more money into the IDF.
No, Democrats armed and supported zionists to carry out a genocide.
Whataboutism. Clean up your own act before you throw stones.
Cool guys like Abdulrahman are infiltrating the Dems and dragging it left. Abdulrahman would never fund Israel. But you talk like he doesn't exist, you reduce the entire party down to the cynical old timers in the ologarchs' pockets. While ignoring those cynics' very aim: to lose.
You and the DNC are walking hand in hand towards the same goal, using the same methods. You're both trying to keep idealists like Abdulrahman from making change, by ensuring he loses to the fascists.
There's a huge difference between what politicians say and do before they get elected and after.
I'm cheering for the guy alongside you. I hope he gets elected. I'm not putting much faith in him.
Mamdani talked a good game as well. Who'd he pick as his head of police? Cuz that's very revealing.
How many times did he go to a pro-palestine rally since getting elected? He's been finding excuses to avoid it altogether.
Dems core and establishment is firmly pro-genocide. There's only so much change he'll bring fighting them alone. I hope he wins still. Politicians have to work within that system and there's not much wiggle room if you aren't an imperialist yourself.
He's alone because there's millions of centrists like you who won't support him, won't support people like him. What kind of lukewarm ass support was that? I've seen people get more excited about a lego building reality show than you got about Abdul! That was some weak shit!
You gotta have hope. You gotta believe in a better tomorrow or you're not going to be capable of building it. I'm a strategic anarchist because I believe in a better tomorrow. You should too.
You gotta express love, not just rage. You gotta build stuff up, not just tear it down. There's no future in directionless whinging. You can't just stand against stuff. You gotta stand for something, too.
I don't think just about our immediate surrounding. I'm not looking for instant gratification from the political process. It'll run its course and we'll see what happens.
Step one is about to happen. I'm absolutely hoping that he wins. He'll be much better in every way than that other guy, I don't doubt that bit.
We'll see what comes after and how much he can deliver.
I got no faith in that party though. Systemic changes will require time. Repairing relationships with allies will take a lot of time. Donald broke trust and bonds that'll likely never go back to how they were and there's nothing Senator El- Syed can do to speed things up.
These are midterms. Every election is local. Every district has different candidates. Unless you have points about a specific race, you're not discussing the election, just partisan vibes. FPTP is applied to each individual race, not the aggregate that make up legislatures.
A transphobe is not on our side regardless of their listed party preference. In my experience, bigots never pick party over prejudice. I live in america and care about my own safety. FPTP is an insidius system that forces us to pick the least bad option.
I don't think its a good thing to be accusing other politically engaged trans people of being fascists for making the best choice they are able given the specifics of of their ballot just because it goes against your broad strokes view that ignores them.
Have some sympathy for your siblings these are bad times for us.