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I've been putting it off, because it took me more than a year to migrate away from Gmail. But this is hard to ignore. I'm tired, fam.
Basically any company that you give money to is going to be lead by arseholes. By definition. The only easy way is self hosting but that has its own difficulties. (And even then it’s still hosted by an arsehole)
I have found if you choose providers that do things like run on 100% sustainable energy, you tend to find the places where leadership's morals overtake their pockets. There are a few mail providers like this.
The biggest dickhead I know runs my server.
Could be worse, your servers could be ran by the same dipshit that runs mine! I swear nothing ever gets fixed on time!
I thought he ran my servers
shrugs
GOG is a good company we all pay for.
Give it a few generations for the selection pressure of the market / the temptations of new leadership to take over.
GOG published a letter with neo Nazi imagery, knowingly said it wouldn’t be okay in Germany, and sent the email to everywhere else. After a huge outrage they gave a meaningless apology without any real comitment to investigating how it happened or how they would ensure it never happened again.
Though, I learned my lesson and bought my own domain. So this pivot should be better.
Yeah, it's taken me a similar time to migrate away from Gmail and I'm not keen to repeat the process. But if this is what Proton's code quality control is going to be like going forward - employees forced to push improperly-tested code because of their unhinged CEO - I'm going to have to go through the whole process again. Sigh.
The only reasonably future proof solution is to get your own domain, and redirect emails sent to @yourdomain.com to your email provider.
Then you can freely change providers in the future but your email addresses stay the same. Doing that costs very little and doesn't require any self hosting, just buying a domain. Looks professional too.
$1/month for a custom domain. One last migration. And then moving platforms is much easier because you don't need to change the email on every service.
That said, I still hear you.
Fuck it. Let's make an easy open source email host and all the corpse can wall us out and we'll just email each other. Wait this sounds familiar.
What do you mean? That idea is brand new!
I think I'm going to start using my own domain, so I can change hosts if needed without having to change email addresses. This seems like it's going to be an issue we'll always need to be prepared to deal with.
Same exact situation. In fact I'm not even fully done migrating away from Gmail although most of my stuff is on Proton now. sigh I guess I'm starting all over again soon.
I spent the day getting things set up to leave.
Pass went to KeePass, which was easier than I expected.
Drive is now replaced with Filen.io
Standard Notes is now Obsidian
Looking at AirVPN, but not ready to pull the trigger on that yet.
Still looking for a calendar. Thunderbird has one but it's not on mobile for some reason.
The big one is mail. I was the same as you migrating from gmail so I'm learning my lesson now. Set up Thundermail today and have 3 custom domains set up. Spent hours today swapping out account emails. It's rough, but I did it to myself. I knew going full Proton ecosystem was a bad idea, but at the time I just wanted out of Google. Take your time.
I canceled my renewal but I’be been putting off finding a replacement because what you said. It’s exhausting.