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People are too hard on Proton
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this post was submitted on 04 Nov 2026
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The CEO of Proton gave money to a dictator. And I have the same contempt and disgust towards Microsoft and Google, that's why I haven't used their products for years.
There are already private alternatives to Proton. It was one of the first to sell some privacy, but not anymore. It's also not a smear campaign IMHO, we know the facts, we can judge for ourselves. Proton is targeted towards privacy-conscious nerds who can and will check the alternatives. It's easy to see that Proton is not the best choice anymore.
What money are you referring to? I remember he made some positive comments about republicans a while back but didn’t hear about any money changing hands.
By dictator do you mean Trump? I absolutely do not like Trump (I’m in Canada and he started a trade war with our country and wants to annex us. We all hate him!). That said he is not a dictator. He was democratically elected. Calling him a dictator takes the agency away from the American people. It makes it seem like they are all passive victims rather than the ones that caused this shit show, but they did cause it, so I won’t like them off that easy.
And bribery seems to be part of the game in the US unfortunately. Do you think he gave Trump money because he likes the guy? In all likelihood he was just playing the game that every tech CEO is playing and looking out for his own best interests. Especially when the US gov is already so hostile to private online platforms already as is, can you really blame him?
Yes I can. "I'm only doing my job" without using your brain is not an excuse anymore. And yes Trump is a dictator who invaded countries and even kidnapped a foreign president. He's also got his own gestapo and boot lickers.
It's not a game, it's a bribe given by a foreign company which makes it worse. You cannot really say "I will participate in this corruption game because Americans are stupid," it's immoral.
You are not a serious person. Dictator != bad leader. So long as Trump was democratically elected he is not a dictator. I’m not sure if you’re American but if you are, please take more responsibility for your countries electoral choices.
You’re right it’s not a game, it’s a fight for survival. Encrypted services are being attacked in the EU, Australia, Canada, India, China, and the US. The CEO is trying to do what he can to keep his company afloat before some stupid anti-encryption prevents him from accessing his biggest consumer base. Is a bribe playing dirty? Sure. But the other team is also playing dirty
Lmfao. Hitler, Stalin, and Mao, the three most (in)famous dictators in history, were all "democratically" elected. So was Putin, Ghadaffi, Orban, and Hussein, and those are just off the top of my head.
Read a fucking book dude.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-coup
Yeah and what happened to elections once they came to power?
oh you jumped off of our conversation but kept going at the exact same topic here? cool
Adolph Hitler was also democratically elected, and yet we all agree that he was a dictator.
No he wasn't. Hitler lost his election, got appointed, then usurped power.
Trump has created his own gestapo.
you know what other dictators were democratically elected? basically all of them.
I know Hitler (for example) was elected but he suspended elections in Germany. Literally name one dictator that hasn’t suspended democratic processes.
orban, kim, putin, lukashenko, ceaușesku...
Are you suggesting that none of these people have interfered with the democratic processes in their respective countries? Because that is false. Log out and read a book buddy
are you suggesting trump hasn't? i'm just using your criteria to answer your questions, my guy. calm down.
No, you aren't.
Yeah, I am. The Dems just crushed hm last night. Do you think he rigged that election? Get serious.
He really, really tried. He threatened legal action, sent intimidation to the counties he thinks will "vote wrong," he tried to force mass disenfranchisement of political opponents, he pulled multiple "heads I win, tails you lose" legal arrangements for contested races, he has sown doubt about non-existent widespread election fraud, he tried to overturn an election, he pressures Georgia to "find him more votes," he constantly prosecutes his political opponents on bogus charges that never stick...
I could go on. Do you live under a rock? He's only not controlling this election because he failed. They badly wanted to rig things in their favor, forever. Project 2025.
Edit: oh, right, I left out offering bribes to vote in his favor and instructing state GOPs to gerrymander as hard as possible, while contesting blue states doing the same. Trump is a dictator, he's just bad at it.
first, the question was "Literally name one dictator that hasn’t suspended democratic processes.". so i named five. then you changed it to "interfered with democratic processes". vote buying, intimidation, and smear campaigns are all election interference.
Does the half century of billionaire capture of regulatory institutions, politicians, courts, and media outlets mean nothing to you?
Yeah, because the Americans allowed it to happen. Spare me the pity party. The French are rioting on the streets over an increase in the price of stinky cheese while the Americans will just roll over when ICE kidnaps their neighbours and act like they are helpless victims. Give me a fucking break