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This post is written on https://normals.me/ and delivered to !fediverse@lemmy.world over #ActivityPub, so if you are reading it the basic plumbing works. Now let me explain what is this.

Normals is a forum with communities, threads, and questions with an accepted answer. It is a single instance, not software you can host, and the core is closed for anti-abuse reasons. The federation module will be published separately with implementation notes (FEP-67ff).

What federates today Every community is a Group actor following the Lemmy model (FEP-1b12). Follow @selfhosted@normals.me or any other community from Lemmy, PieFed, Mbin or Mastodon.

Posts and comments go both ways. Replies from your instance appear in the thread on Normals, replies from Normals go back to the origin.

Remote content is labelled with its origin, links back to it, and is never copied. Media loads from the source.

Signed fetches, so it works with instances that require authorized fetch. NodeInfo 2.1 is up.

Policies, in case they matter to you, it has no ads, and no paid reach, and of course no AI training on posts. AI crawlers blocked by default, public mod log with reasons, and no automated removals. Numbers at https://normals.me/transparency so please take a look.

If something from your instance shows up wrong here, or something from here shows up wrong on yours, reply with the URL and I'll fix it. Andy Piper mentioned NodeBB uses the same group model, if anyone runs a NodeBB instance I'd like to test against it, if possible.

I hope we all have fun. Cheers!

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[-] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 day ago

Its strange how hostile people are being. And people are assuming everything is vibecoded at this point.

[-] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

IDK even if it was completely vibecoded, who cares? It's another funnel to bring people into the Fediverse. You don't need to use it yourself, just be glad that there's more ways to get people in here. It's a different design with different UX, there's always the chance that this will hook people who didn't enjoy Lemmy/PieFed/Mbin/etc. The more the merrier.

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

Because vibe-coded projects are almost never maintained. Usually they're abandoned after a very short time.

Also, AI is trained on stolen data, plus it represents a huge enviromental, economic, human, ethical and animal problem. AI should be completely banned from existence. Fuck AI.

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

Has AI even been around long enough to make that claim?

[-] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Cite your sources for this claim please.

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago

I don't know if there's empirical data, but at least from personal experience I've noticed a lot of those projects are straight up gone after like a week. Like I'll see it posted in some Lemmy community, and I'll check it again later and the repo just plain doesn't exist any more.

A lot of others I see were created in a very short time, and then months later there's a dozen open issues and no response from the repo owner.

[-] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

I’d make the point that most software projects, vibe coded or otherwise, are abandoned. I’ve made a ton of hand coded projects that I just am done with after a while. Vibe coding can increase your total output, but I don’t believe it means the person who created it won’t maintain it.

They won't, because they'll not understand the code at all, or barely understand it, and then there comes the whole deskilling problem.

[-] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 2 points 1 day ago

If that happens then maybe its users will switch to Lemmy or PieFed when they realize it's the same network

[-] baldur@normals.me 2 points 1 day ago

I'm in the same position, I mean, I worked really hard to get MVP done, and I'm just a full stack developer, with 15 years of experience in the industry, and they say it's vibecoded because the UI looks well done haha. That's amazing, but in certain way I see it funny to be honest. It feels more like people those haters tried, failed and they have nothing better but attack XD.

I told one of them, ok, try to create one and see how it goes. An AI cannot do what it has been done here that's why it is so ridiculous when they say it is vibecoded.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 10 points 1 day ago

the ui looks extremely generic, like everything llms spit out. and no, i've not tried to create my own fediverse software. you don't have to be a director to critique a movie.

[-] Auth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The UI looks generic because it follows modern design patterns. Lemmy would look Generic 10 years ago.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 7 points 1 day ago

lemmy does look generic. it looks like a generic bootstrap application. but it's generic in a readable way, without the glassy gradients and lighting effects everywhere. it feels like we're back in the dreamweaver days where you had to load a bunch of gifs just to get that cool drop shadow you wanted.

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