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submitted 17 hours ago by baldur@normals.me to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

This post is written on https://normals.me/ and delivered to !fediverse@lemmy.world over #ActivityPub, so if you are reading it the basic plumbing works. Now let me explain what is this.

Normals is a forum with communities, threads, and questions with an accepted answer. It is a single instance, not software you can host, and the core is closed for anti-abuse reasons. The federation module will be published separately with implementation notes (FEP-67ff).

What federates today Every community is a Group actor following the Lemmy model (FEP-1b12). Follow @selfhosted@normals.me or any other community from Lemmy, PieFed, Mbin or Mastodon.

Posts and comments go both ways. Replies from your instance appear in the thread on Normals, replies from Normals go back to the origin.

Remote content is labelled with its origin, links back to it, and is never copied. Media loads from the source.

Signed fetches, so it works with instances that require authorized fetch. NodeInfo 2.1 is up.

Policies, in case they matter to you, it has no ads, and no paid reach, and of course no AI training on posts. AI crawlers blocked by default, public mod log with reasons, and no automated removals. Numbers at https://normals.me/transparency so please take a look.

If something from your instance shows up wrong here, or something from here shows up wrong on yours, reply with the URL and I'll fix it. Andy Piper mentioned NodeBB uses the same group model, if anyone runs a NodeBB instance I'd like to test against it, if possible.

I hope we all have fun. Cheers!

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[-] gorilophobia@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 hours ago

Please no. Fediverse, open standards, open source, free software, no bullshit.

[-] toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 11 hours ago

If your "anti-abuse" security requires your software to be closed source, then your software is not secure. Well built software can be open source, and still secure.

You imply that your code could not prevent abuse if it was known, so, no offense, but that code must be pretty bad!

I like the fediverse because it distributes power. I, as a user, have the power to choose my instance, choose my moderation, choose the structure that my social interactions are built upon (threads based, microblogs, etc) and if I dont like something, I have the power to change it. Thats why open source is such a perfect fit to that model. Closed source federation then, sounds to me like you didnt get it.

[-] joeschmoe@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago

Added the "make no mistakes" to the prompt, but forgot the "make it secure". Rookie mistake.

[-] Auth@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

closed source federation is fine. Federation is sharing the content and allowing users to remain connected across platforms it has little to do with what app is being used.

[-] toothbrush@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago

Sure, its still federation. But in my opinion, its contrary to its philosophy of user control.

[-] Auth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Its not a black or white thing. You can give users more or less control without giving them full control or no control. It still aligns with the philosophy because its giving users more control over their experience compared with other more mainstream platforms.

[-] Paula_Tejando@lemmy.eco.br 4 points 7 hours ago

Am I right in taking it as sort of a stackexhange alternative?

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago
[-] teslekova@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 hours ago

Hello! Good luck!

It's weird running these things. Why was running a Lemmy or Piefed instance not right for your taste, if I may ask?

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 12 hours ago

closed source and symmetric blocking. two strikes.

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 hours ago
[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 9 hours ago

when you are blocked, you can't respond. it's how twitter, Facebook, and new reddit blocking works. it's a great way to stop people from correcting misinformation, since they can't see it when logged in, and couldn't respond even if they could see it.

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 hours ago

Ah yeah I'm aware of that anti-feature, though I hadn't heard it called that before. Did OP mention that, though? I don't see it in their post.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago
[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

Ah yeah. One of the reasons I'm not on piefed, that nonsense.

[-] squirrel@cake.kobel.fyi 56 points 16 hours ago

Hi, I got a couple questions that aren't answered on your transparency page yet.

  • Has AI been used to create this?
  • Two AI communities are on top of your communities list. Your terms talk about preventing AI scraping, yet your platform seems to welcome "AI founders". How does this go together?
  • Where is the source code?
  • Your terms talk about monetization through Normals Plus. Can you elaborate on this?
[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 33 points 15 hours ago

Has AI been used to create this?

Do you really need to ask? 😅

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[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 29 points 16 hours ago

Closed source and clearly completely vibe coded? Just look at the site, it reeks of AI. Even this post has so much AI-speech.

Yea, no thanks.

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[-] SanderZeldenthuis@nord.pub 19 points 15 hours ago

Polish law requires the operator of a web service to include the following information on it:

  • Full legal/registered business name
  • Registered address
  • Identification numbers (such as NIP, REGON, or KRS entry for Polish businesses)
  • Direct contact details (email/phone)

Failing to provide this means your TOS and Privacy Policy are unenforceable.

[-] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 4 points 14 hours ago

.me is Montenegro, not Poland.

[-] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 17 points 14 hours ago

The privacy policy mentions the page is from Poland and references Polish law though.

[-] baldur@normals.me 2 points 12 hours ago

Thanks, noted. Operator details will be added once the business registration is done.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 28 points 16 hours ago

if the core is closed for the stated reason, does that mean you are unsure about the safety of the system?

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[-] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 11 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Hello from RetroLemmy! Always fun to see a new platform join in

[-] baldur@normals.me 6 points 16 hours ago

Yay! Thank you, I appreciate the comment! It seems to work!

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[-] python@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago
[-] micgerne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

I think SYN comes first, not ACK

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