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[-] dropdrip@lemmy.ml 94 points 1 day ago

B-b-but Apple cares about privacy. They would never spy on you like the filthy Microsoft. That's why I brought an iPhone.

[-] NovaVeles@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

For all the problems of Steve jobs, he at least kept the company fairly honest in this sense. But the instant he died, Tim cook immediately rush ed to install PRISM backdoors into all their systems while still carrying the image of privacy.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago

Apples odd in that they are pretty protective of your personal information, as in they won’t sell it or lets 3rd parties come even remotely close to it, but have very little qualms in abusing it themselves.

Not even Google sells any of your data. They collect data and sell advertising spots but not the data itself.

Selling data only works as a business model if you cannot sell ad spots. That is why news websites have cookie banners with 1000 partners but Google, Facebook, Apple, et al. do not.

[-] 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

they won’t sell it or lets 3rd parties come even remotely close to it

If they secretly let the government double dip, I don't think I want to trust any other claims they and their marketing makes.

Apple admits to secretly giving governments push notification data - Ars Technica

What are the odds that Google also claims it doesn't sell your data, it "shares" it.

But would you trust them?

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 hours ago

Even Apple is going to listen to the government. They have done things to limit what they can tell them but most people don't use it. And to be fair so has Google it is why location data is now on device instead of on the cloud with Google.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

All cloud operators are beholden to their governments.

[-] dropdrip@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I read that Apple was implementing ads in their maps software now. Quick search seems to confirm it. Below is a page blurb originating from Apple's domain.

Now businesses can run ads on Apple Maps — right where customers are deciding where to go.

My initial comment was just satire, but reading through the document I'm just... tired. This sort of analysis originates from America's intelligence organizations. It's not surprising that the technique's bled into private-business--it always happens. Intel. orgs. create a software solution that solves one of their problems and entrepreneurs within those organizations realize private-businesses have similar problems.

(I will state--because it's tangentially related--the matrix-protocol originates from individuals linked to mossad. I encourage users not to use matrix.)

Apples not odd. It's the same as every other technology corporation.

[-] DenimFootpath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

(I will state—because it’s tangentially related—the matrix-protocol originates from individuals linked to mossad. I encourage users not to use matrix.)

Are you referring to the historic link to Amdocs?

I need to arrange a meeting with every apple user I know so I can remind them that they're Tim apple's wholly owned bitch, I told them so, and they fucking suck.

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Can you also talk to my employer's IT department?

[-] artyom@piefed.social 1 points 9 hours ago

Yeah my employer updated their app to require Google services and their response to my concern was "sorry, you must sign up to be Google's bitch if you want to keep working here"

[-] CoconutLove@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago

I mean… they did market this as having your personal context, so I don’t think it is a surprise. The idea is it’s not accessible to anyone but you.

me, and my rightful owners of course.

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

The data in this case is local on the device, but I agree it’s still an invasion of privacy

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 hours ago

Is it? Remember when you couldn't launch an app on OSX because apple was down for some reason.

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

No I don’t remember that, but codesigning doesn’t require all of your data to be shared remotely, just a few encryption keys. Not even enough to know what exactly you are running (although it’s likely something from the App Store in which case they have records of what you bought or downloaded in the App Store of course).

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