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[-] the_q@piefed.social -1 points 11 hours ago

You shouldn't be vibecoding at all, bud. Toe dippers such as yourself help move to normalize this crap.

[-] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Nah. I'm not anti-AI categorically, just the grift, marketing, and billionaires around it. I've built and maintained production deployments that incorporate CNNs; I've been using AI (ML) since long before the attention paper and modern AI branding.

[-] the_q@piefed.social 2 points 9 hours ago

You're clearly not bothered by the grift if you're using the billionaire's products.

[-] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Oh, well, aren't you smart...

I also use Amazon. I buy my groceries from my region's local monopoly. I have a Facebook account (that I only use for marketplace). I also pay taxes, a portion of which goes to killing poor brown people for some reason...

Yes, I exist in a capitalist system and consume thusly when it benefits me to do so. Just because my money goes somewhere doesn't mean I like the people whose pockets it goes into. I prefer using local models for most of my low-hanging-fruit LLM needs, but frontier models have their place, and their uses, and so I have a subscription (which I've shifted around a few times).

also really not a big fan of the major chip manufacturers and brands, but I have a computer filled with the things. If you want to open up a fab or a frontier lab and can compete with them on quality and even get in the ballpark of them on price, and aren't a fucking Nazi, I'd be more than happy to use your product instead. However, here we are.

P. S. I also bought a Nestle chocolate bar the other day, and they're basically a manifestation of satan. It is what it is...

[-] the_q@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago

Some things are a requirement to function in this capitalist society, but using slop generators isn't one of those things. You do you though.

[-] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Neither is the chocolate bar, but yum.

Personally, I like things that improve the quality and enjoyment of my life. But agreed; to each their own.

[-] logi@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

The billionaires lose money each time you use their stuff. We should drain them as much as we can.

[-] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I don't think that's actually the case. A lot of people say that, but inference is absurdly cheap, even compared to "api-subsidized" subscription prices. Where the math doesn't work out is the fact that they're training new models all the time. Any individual generation of model, if they were to just stop on it, (I suspect) would be profitable. But when you factor in continuous R&D and training costs of chasing the next gen, they're just hemorrhaging money.

But that's the game they're playing because they don't actually care about selling a product to customers; they care about investors. Nobody gets rich anymore by making a product and selling it to people. They get rich by making a product and then pitching it to investors and then getting bought out by a bigger fish or going public and having a big IPO.

The way the economy works now is that the companies are the products. Or at least their shares are, for a time...

[-] logi@lemmy.world 1 points 27 minutes ago

I don't think inference is breaking even with the rapid depreciation of the chips, etc. but they don't let us see any of those finances for some reason.

But I take it back about using it as much as possible. Those CO2 emissions are inexcusable.

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 0 points 10 hours ago

"All AI use is bad" is the same absolutist crap as "every life is precious" or "all knives are bad".

AI hurts the environment, and damages critical-thinking skills. It is trained on stolen art and private conversations, sorted overseas by traumatised, disgustingly underpaid data-labelers.

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 9 hours ago

What do you think your phone is made of? What do you think your computers are made of? How do you think your bananas, chocolate, rice, tea, and a bunch of other things are made? Are you going to swear off those and judge those that don't?

I use a Fairphone (and I'll keep using it for the next decade, as far as I'm concerned), my computers are second-hand, I don't eat bananas, chocolate, or rice, and I don't drink tea.

These things pale in comparison to the consequences of using AI. It's like comparing the carbon emissions of a gas stove to those of a private jet.

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 8 hours ago

Lmao, you sure about that? How do you think they get to you? Even before AI came along citizens from rich countries were contributing double or more to greenhouse gases than poorer nations.

How much did AI add on top? 5%? 10%?

I don't eat bananas, chocolate, or rice, and I don't drink tea

Kek. And you live on air and sunlight too, I'm sure.

"How do [I] think they get to [me]?" What are "they"?

5-10% is an insane amount of carbon emissions, and dismissing it is particularly inane.

I actually hate sunlight, and prefer living off pickles and peanut butter sandwiches. I do need air, though.

[-] the_q@piefed.social 1 points 9 hours ago

It's OK, bud. You're allowed to use the slop machines without feeling the need to defend it.

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev -1 points 9 hours ago

It's OK amateur, it's fine to have an ignorant opinion.

[-] the_q@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago

Did you call me amateur as an insult? Lol what?

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