this post was submitted on 15 Sep 2023
2565 points (96.8% liked)
linuxmemes
21378 readers
1145 users here now
Hint: :q!
Sister communities:
Community rules (click to expand)
1. Follow the site-wide rules
- Instance-wide TOS: https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/
- Lemmy code of conduct: https://join-lemmy.org/docs/code_of_conduct.html
2. Be civil
- Understand the difference between a joke and an insult.
- Do not harrass or attack members of the community for any reason.
- Leave remarks of "peasantry" to the PCMR community. If you dislike an OS/service/application, attack the thing you dislike, not the individuals who use it. Some people may not have a choice.
- Bigotry will not be tolerated.
- These rules are somewhat loosened when the subject is a public figure. Still, do not attack their person or incite harrassment.
3. Post Linux-related content
- Including Unix and BSD.
- Non-Linux content is acceptable as long as it makes a reference to Linux. For example, the poorly made mockery of
sudoin Windows. - No porn. Even if you watch it on a Linux machine.
4. No recent reposts
- Everybody uses Arch btw, can't quit Vim, and wants to interject for a moment. You can stop now.
Please report posts and comments that break these rules!
Important: never execute code or follow advice that you don't understand or can't verify, especially here. The word of the day is credibility. This is a meme community -- even the most helpful comments might just be shitposts that can damage your system. Be aware, be smart, don't fork-bomb your computer.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Calm down MacOS hasn't done shit to make it better. They decide what you do and don't get, daddy apple already made the decision and you have to deal with it.
"We did the thinking for you, and you'll like it." Might as well be their slogan.
Mac still locks up with frozen applications. I hate it
Yeah, MacOS has way more bugs than Windows 10. It's kind of hard to believe that it has been this bad for the past several years. They keep pushing features, but they need a 1-2 year pause on features to fix the existing features they have.
I agree and it's very weird to say that. The appeal of Mac when I was a kid was that it didn't have issues and I got blue screens on windows XP very often.
Now it seems the opposite. I've had my Mac entirely lock up because an application froze twice this month, but the last blue screen I had in windows was because I over clocked my RAM. I don't think I've had an issue other than that since Windows 7 released.
I've had the exact opposite experience. Have never had an app freeze my Mac but my windows computer freezes up at least once a week. Using both for work so similar loads but I guess it's possible some of my work software is dodgy on the windows. Still probably shouldn't lock up like that so frequently.
I must be lucky with windows then.
It's kind of ridiculous that either one can lock up due to a bad application though. Feels like lately it's been almost as bad as the XP and beach ball of death days.
I guess it's just really hard to make an operating system. My work Mac also isn't completely devoid of its own issues. Sometimes moving the mouse can be a bit laggy which is frustrating because I also have a personal Mac that's not laggy, so again probably the work software.
Absolutely agree it's ridiculous that modern hardware still sometimes chugs when it's thousands of times more powerful than what we had back in the day.
When I got a macbook from work I was honestly choked at how awful things were.
Even the simplest of tasks required googling. It was so very unintuitive.
I mean, I had to do some weird dragging to install an application!?
Even to this day, I totally avoid using it.
Ah yes, the notoriously unintuitive feature known as… drag and drop.
Err, why couldn't they do the double click like everything else?
Double click and then do a drag and drop, totally intuitive.
That’s… exactly what you do. macOS software is usually distributed in DMG files (compressed disk images). You download the DMG, open it (with a double click in Finder), then drag and drop the APP file to your Applications folder (or wherever else you want it to be).
Speaking of APP files, the structure of macOS apps is vastly superior to that of Windows, imo. Linux generally has them both beat, but there’s some additional complexity there.
I have to agree with the other person actually. The drag and drop thing is kind of weird. They ought to just automate it.
Other than that I think Mac is fairly easy to use, and more customizable than people realize.
I do wish they had better window management though. GNOME and Windows both make window snapping so much easier than Mac. And the support for third party hardware on Mac is pretty bad.
The drag and drop thing is because it's an app file. "Installation" is just putting the file in your application folder, or wherever you want it. Apps are (usually) just files, unlike on windows, so you don't need to go through a complicated installation process, just put them where you want them (usually the applications folder).
The window snapping thing is annoying (but it's not apple's fault, Microsoft has a patent on it lol). There's a bunch of free apps that add window snapping though 🤷♀️
An aside, You can make KDE feel like that, but youd know every hairbrain behavor because you did it yourself.
People who have ever only used one operating system, and tried to apply everything how they use that exactly to a different one are awful. Yeah, different OSs are different, that's the point of it. That you don't do everything exactly how you are used on it, doesn't make the OS bad, you just need some time to get accustomed to some things being different.
The people here are the most biased possible.
Honestly if they bought Apple products they clearly signed up to let Apple do the thinking for them.
Yep. Same as Windows.
Windows is far more customizable by comparison. Still nothing next to Linux but trying to put them on the same field at least in an enterprise environment is ludicrous.
Stock, 1st party apps-only Windows 11? From what I have seen of it (which admittedly is not much, I won't install it on my machines), it looks very limited in UI customization.
7 downvotes but I don't get where you're wrong. Maybe the fact that Windows 11 requires TPM and some other security features? But the rest of the OS pretty much went down in terms of quality.
It doesn't strictly require TPM in the sense that you can make a modded install disk that does away with the TPM check altogether. People are able to install windows on all sorts of devices now.
Microsoft may have pushed hard on wanting you to have TPM, but it's more because they didn't want to deal with the plethora of bugs that come about as a result of inferior hardware.
Windows is still my OS of choice as any misgivings like ads etc can be disabled with a few steps . Is it annoying? Sure, but unlike Macs, I'm able to do something about it when I find something annoying instead of hoping the next OS update deals with it.
Fair enough, also I meant TPM and security as a good thing if that wasn't clear (you might've known that tho, i suck at reading tone via text.)
Not a real requirement, it's a fake requirement they ask for on Install, windows runs without it just fine.
When I started using MacOS, I was prepared for annoying design decisions that I would eventually get used to. I was not prepared for inconsistencies, bugs, and a significant loss of features and functionality. MacOS is a terrible operating system.
Still doesn't support resolution scaling, no window snapping, beach ball of death happens easily, can't disable the obnoxious caps lock timer (which is awful for writing SQL).
Mac is only good for development because the terminal is Unix based and the M1 has amazing battery life. Otherwise I hate it.
I developed in a linux enviorment on a chromebook before, its okay, even in developer mode, i still felt restricted in what I could do. (Remeber, ARM isnt x86, make shure you get things compiled for ARM if possablez) If id be less crashy, it may be better. Youd have to be affixed to a google account tho.
As someone who switches between Windows, Mac, and Linux (KDE), the every-day bugs with Mac OS are far more annoying to me than the bugs in the other two.
In my experience when I find a bug in Windows or Linux, it's normally quite a significant bug, but it's an edge case that you only run into occasionally (e.g. WSL used to lock up completely on Windows 11 when hibernating).
When I find a bug on MacOS, it's normally something minor, but in something I do all the time, so it ends up being more frustrating (e.g. the lock ups and stuttering every few seconds when Ventura was quite new, oh boy that was annoying).
I wish it was pinwheels, sadly it was just complete lockups, as in, not even the mouse would move. It got worse and was most noticeable when an external monitor was attached.
iOS doesn't let me choose which map app an address opens in. And I can't select text in iMessage so I can't copy and paste the address unless the person was smart enough to send it as a separate message.
There are two examples of why this is bad. I can think of plenty more with just my daily use of iOS.
Long Press -> Copy Address.
Oh my god THANK YOU!! I've been so annoyed by this 🙏