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His argument was literally that

  • artists, writers, and programmers are "labor aristocracy" and deserve no respect because they're sitting around making art and writing code while other people are toiling and laboring,
  • genAI is a "free resource" ("it's free for me to use at work") that "helps everyone make things" instead of having to rely on skill and expertise and therefore makes everything equal,
  • it's hypocritical of people to be worried about the environmental and societal impact of genAI because "only white people are worried about it now that their hobbies are being threatened and everyone else is catching up".

Pointing out there there are artists and programmers from every race and economic class, as well as perfectly ordinary people in every walk of life who are all actively being harmed both by the theft of ideas and labor and by the physical effects of gigantic data centers ruining communities, was met with much hand-waving and incredibly impenetrable philosophical jargon.

I'm particularly incensed because I'm as leftist and anticapitalist as they come and this felt like the fuckery some conservative cockwomble would try to come up with to parody socialism, except this guy was completely serious.

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[-] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 23 points 8 hours ago

Nothing like arguing socialism and imperialism with people who don't know what either of those words mean.

AI is built on the unprecedented theft and exploitation of the intellectual labor of the creative working class by greedy capitalists.

[-] deadalus@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 7 hours ago

I've talked with someone that argued that the concept of intellectual property is inherently capitalist, and therefore it taking the art and other works of people doesn't matter in the grand scheme.

And I guess I see the point. I don't agree with it, but I can't argue that well against it.

[-] OhNoMoreLemmy@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 hours ago

This is like saying we don't need to pay a minimum wage now because under communism each will be provided according to their needs. 

IP is a necessary evil under the current system to stop distributors like Instagram, tiktok,  or AI companies from taking labor from workers (artists, writers, etc.) without compensation.

[-] derAbsender@piefed.social 2 points 4 hours ago

IP is a necessary evil under the current system to stop distributors like Instagram, tiktok, or AI companies from taking labor from workers (artists, writers, etc.) without compensation.

Seemingly this did not work.

Almost like rules dont apply for the ruling class and the whole IP spiel is just, as pointed out, completely and utterly capitalist.

And to think that IP laws would prevent the rich from thieving is hilariously naive.

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