this post was submitted on 05 Oct 2023
345 points (95.3% liked)

Fuck Cars

9459 readers
474 users here now

A place to discuss problems of car centric infrastructure or how it hurts us all. Let's explore the bad world of Cars!

Rules

1. Be CivilYou may not agree on ideas, but please do not be needlessly rude or insulting to other people in this community.

2. No hate speechDon't discriminate or disparage people on the basis of sex, gender, race, ethnicity, nationality, religion, or sexuality.

3. Don't harass peopleDon't follow people you disagree with into multiple threads or into PMs to insult, disparage, or otherwise attack them. And certainly don't doxx any non-public figures.

4. Stay on topicThis community is about cars, their externalities in society, car-dependency, and solutions to these.

5. No repostsDo not repost content that has already been posted in this community.

Moderator discretion will be used to judge reports with regard to the above rules.

Posting Guidelines

In the absence of a flair system on lemmy yet, let’s try to make it easier to scan through posts by type in here by using tags:

Recommended communities:

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i detest signs like these with such a burning passion, they show that people want their streets to be safe but cannot be arsed to actually get them to be made safer, so they put up a sign as if that's going to do jack shit.

If you want people to drive safely, get the local government to traffic calm the street, if nothing else it's common for there to be a procedure for getting permission to place some flower boxes on the street to make your own traffic calming.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'd go even farther than that: I'd argue that those signs are an admission of incompetence by the engineer who approved their installation.

I'm becoming more and more convinced that the path towards improving the situation is to directly target the engineers themselves by going after the license of those who fail to design streets appropriately for all users. Even if they follow established government guidelines or industry best practices, that shouldn't be a defense because the guidelines and best practices are wrong to begin with.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

somehow soldiers can't use "i was just following orders" to defend murder but engineers can.

[–] Rexios@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Whenever I see signs that say something like “children live here” I just think “okay? And what if I hate children?” Maybe I’ll just drive faster then.