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Statistic on the news said that 50% of the population there are under 18...

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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

So you want to make a scrap material slum? With no infrastructure like running water or sewage?

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I suppose anything is possible if you take human dignity out of the equation.

[–] 4L3moNemo@programming.dev -5 points 1 year ago

Do they chose to do not work for the good of themselves and not to inprove their enviroment, because of their dignity? Do "feeders" and supporters think they improve dignity of the feeded ones, by keeping needfull ones dependant with constant support?

[–] 4L3moNemo@programming.dev -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And whats wrong in building infrastructure by themselves? Diging up watter, clay, making whatever things civilization done thousands years? Other (e.g. north countries) people do it even then they have to grow their own food, fight the cold and bad seasons in parallel. Here we have all food, minimum shelter from elements and even medicine already provided. And yet, where is the progress? Whats wrong in that whole support process then?

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You think you could build a functioning, sanitary sewer without any training or education

[–] uncertainty 2 points 1 year ago

If you can get people to leave the pile alone long enough, composting is safe and yields a useful end product https://humanurehandbook.com/

[–] 4L3moNemo@programming.dev -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You think you can read, I thought you could. ;) Because I specifically mentioned quot: taken than the leadership is provided ...

and that implies all kinds of leadership. Helping to organize, management, help of qualified engineers, consultations and their services, overseers in the field, and/or training specialists. It's not that it is a rocket science, and we are not talking about skyscrapers. Any body can be a builder after some explaining, if we are talking about single store simple hause with running watter, sewer. And anybody can dig and lay pipes. Hell, they already had ramp, lever, clay brics, stone blocs, ropes, paper, maths, and even a wheel there, more than a 5 thousand years ago. More than 2 thousands years ago they already had there a water wheel, pipes and other water technologies. It is not that a rocket science is needed to develop the enviroment. It can be needed if we want to do it fast, labour and economicaly efective, but that is not a case here. We are talking about supported people – it's not that they use their time efectively now or will lose something by taking two hours per day to improve their enviroment themselves.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was your mother an alcoholic?

[–] 4L3moNemo@programming.dev -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you imply all theirs mothers were?

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If they gave me a wall of barely coherent nonsense like that, then maybe I would