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The death toll means around ten percent of the kibbutz's population was wiped out

The bodies of more than 100 people were discovered by volunteers in a single, small Israeli village Monday — including those of children — believed to have been killed by Hamas militants caught on camera.

The remains were discovered in Be'eri, or Bari, a kibbutz in southern Israel close to Gaza. It's one of the villages Hamas militants invaded on Saturday as they began their attack on the country.

"Today the volunteers entered Kibbutz Bari and it is impossible to explain in words the terrible sights - some were adults, some were children. These are horrors that cannot be grasped in the mind or soul," a spokesperson for Zaka search and rescue told IDF radio.

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[–] Pasta4u@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You just contradict yourself. You can't kill your way out of this kind of conflict. Then you say you can complete genocide. So you can kill your way out of this.

That is likely what they are going to do. Starve out and destroy Gaza so everyone leaves. Then enter it and take it over and build another wall woth even more guns and keep pushing new walls further back to make the balstics Hamas use less effective.

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This conflict is Israel vs Hamas, at least on paper. So even if Israel ramps up strikes without care of civilian death, that is still different then an actual intentional and systemic genocide.

So no, Israel cannot kill it's way out of this current conflict.

[–] Pasta4u@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course they can and they are doing it. They are going to destroy Gaza block by block until everyone has fled or is killed and there is nothing but rubble to go back too. Then Isreal will just take over the land and move in.

[–] circuscritic@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I understand that is ultimate dream of Bibi, Ben-Gvir, and a disturbingly large number of genocidal zealots that support them, but no, that is not going to be what happens with this specific conflict at this time.

Eventually, they will withdraw from Gaza and leave the millions of Palestinians left to starve and suffer in the rubble.

Let's say, hypothetically, that Hamas was actually somehow destroyed, every leader killed, and 200k fighters dead. What kind of organization do you think would rise up to replace it?

[–] Pasta4u@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Looks like they are doing a pretty good job if leveling Gaza right now and don't appear to be stopping anytime soon