We've made some changes today, and we'd like to announce that our Code of Conduct is no longer in effect. We now have a new Terms of Service, in effect starting from today(October 19, 2023).

The "LAST REVISION DATE:" on the page also signifies when the page was last edited, and it is updated automatically. Details of specific edits may be viewed by following the "Page History" reference at the bottom of the page. All significant edits will also be announced to our users.

The new Terms of Service can be found at https://legal.lemmy.world/

In this post our community mods and users may express their questions, concerns, requests and issues regarding the Terms of Service, and content moderation in Lemmy.World. We hope to discuss and inform constructively and in good faith.

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[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This seems to bring LW closer to Reddit. /s

But seriously, what is the point of all of this? It only seems to overcomplicate things. Now a user will have to:

Follow the ToS
Follow the CoC
Follow whatever rules a community's sidebar states
Match whichever mod's interpretation of all the above

In that order, or any other order? I see nothing about protesting the breach of the ToS by either the CoC or some community, or some community's mod... so which supersedes which?

How is this going to be communicated to users commenting/posting from other instances? Or is this only applicable to users registered on this instance? In which case, what is going to be applicable to federated users?

What are the user's rights?

Users Responsibilities: 4.x
Our Rights: 6.x
Users Rights: none?

If you want to establish this as a legal document, then you're missing at least a section.

If this is about giving as many reasons as possible to remove/ban content/users, it's all unnecessary, just say "mods can remove/ban whatever"; it's a private instance, you can do that.

If this is about having a ruleset that protects the users from arbitrary mod decisions... I see none of that in there.

[–] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

Ultimately it's just "we're gonna act like how reddit admins act".

[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Simplified version: Dont be an asshole.

FIN

[–] Aux@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Using a free service is not a right, it's a privilege. Which can be revoked at any time for any reason. Grow up.

[+] clueless_stoner@lemmy.world -18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

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[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I know perfectly well how federation works. The core of my questions have nothing to do with federation, they're about people and how they'll #### rules to death.

But since you brought it up: you may want to also consider the implications of mods from federated instances making decisions about content on LW communities.

What are user rights?

Anything that's not restricted?

As I said, if you want to establish this as a legal document (often called "Terms of Service")... then you may really want to check with a lawyer on that.

And if you have an issue with humans moderating, oh well, good luck.

Maybe I wasn't clear; this isn't about me having an issue, this is about you missing a few issues. Take it or leave it, I have no stake in this.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Allowances? They're talking about guarantees.

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lemmy bill of rights? Interesting... what kind of stuff would you expect to see on such a document?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Not my idea, but let's make it a Constitution while we're at it. Dibs on the first Supreme Court seat.