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Lead Lemmy Developer, Dessalines, denying the Tiananmen Square Massacre and praising the Uyghur Genocide
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You don't have to like the artist?
except they make decisions that affect the entirety of lemmy, such as introducing Hexbear into the fediverse
How do you mean? Lemmy is open source, anyone can create an instance, they don't need the developers permission... And other instances are free to defederate from them.
Ah, so I am not the only one suffering from posts from that instance. Hexbear was so bad I had to block that instance from appearing in my feed.
I wish I could. That does not work on kbin. Wonder why that is.
How? Hexbear decided to make their fork compatible with Lemmy again and to federate. And as you know plenty of instances defederated with hexbear since.
The devs helped assist with that.
I know - but how does that affect any other instance? Doesn't stop us from defederating.
What's Hexbear?
Another tankie instance
Oh, okay but do the Lemmy devs really have control over who starts an instance? Isn't this the whole point of the fediverse or do I have it wrong?
Don't the Lemmy devs and the Hexbears moderators have overlapping people?
Nah, that's lemmygrad
I wondered the same for kbin.
They don't have control over instances, no. However they can deny tech support or delisting your instance with others across the fediverse.
What are you talking about? What specific support hexbear needs?
Censorship, we need more censorship
What do you mean?
More censorship to Lemmy, ban by IP, and defederate any instance that doesn't only post about politics, and take them to the court
Yeah ... But that power is only in their hands because the rest of us are complacent, like for me I don't think I have the time to take over lemmy development :/
Exactly, we'd have no technology if we refused to use things that have been created from less than moral beginnings
Indeed. Like a ton of modern medicine is based upon the findings of Nazi scientists torturing Jews and others.
It is bad that it happened, but we wouldn't be saving so many lives if we denied the information.
That's not actually true as far as I know. The Nazi experiments were rarely truly 'scientific', instead being poorly documented and often having no or poor controls.
A lot of their 'research' ended up being unusable, unreproducible or just plain wrong.
That's a common misconception. Nazi scientists were surprisingly incompetent, like they didn't document shit, no control or even reason for doing what they did. Most of it seemed to exist just to torture people and the results were just useless. Because of how shit they were as scientists they didn't even learn about torture.
Oh and another shining example was when Nazies got flat earthers in their rocketry department who did not account for the curvature of the earth thus missing every time at long range. Also any evidence that counteracted their science was called Jewish science and discarded.
Bad is putting it lightly. It's an atrocity.