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[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

except they make decisions that affect the entirety of lemmy, such as introducing Hexbear into the fediverse

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

How do you mean? Lemmy is open source, anyone can create an instance, they don't need the developers permission... And other instances are free to defederate from them.

[–] kirk781@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, so I am not the only one suffering from posts from that instance. Hexbear was so bad I had to block that instance from appearing in my feed.

[–] Raffster@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I wish I could. That does not work on kbin. Wonder why that is.

[–] antik@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How? Hexbear decided to make their fork compatible with Lemmy again and to federate. And as you know plenty of instances defederated with hexbear since.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The devs helped assist with that.

[–] antik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I know - but how does that affect any other instance? Doesn't stop us from defederating.

[–] librechad@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] librechad@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Oh, okay but do the Lemmy devs really have control over who starts an instance? Isn't this the whole point of the fediverse or do I have it wrong?

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Don't the Lemmy devs and the Hexbears moderators have overlapping people?

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Nah, that's lemmygrad

[–] Raffster@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I wondered the same for kbin.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They don't have control over instances, no. However they can deny tech support or delisting your instance with others across the fediverse.

[–] calavera@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

What are you talking about? What specific support hexbear needs?

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago

Yeah ... But that power is only in their hands because the rest of us are complacent, like for me I don't think I have the time to take over lemmy development :/