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[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My bans from lemmy.ml have all come from literally arguing that there are a solid 150 years worth of academic ideas building on Marx and that taking Marxist orthodoxy as the exclusive socialist dogma in that context is simply ignorant.

I am starting to think that they hate revisionist socialists more than actual capitalists, because it seeks to deny them the thing they really want, which is a justification for violence and totalitarianism.

[–] el_bhm@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I posted this before, but I really believe these instances are run by APTs.

It is not the first nor last time that extremists are being used by state-run aparatus.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

They're conservatives. Hierarchy is the only way they decide what's real. It's the same tribalist thinking that produced the Lady Hope hoax - saying Darwin recanted on his deathbed, as if that would cancel out the last 150 years of evolutionary biology. They genuinely do not understand science or philosophy, because they don't believe arguments can be evaluated, except in terms of interpersonal trust.

So in their minds - if Marx was wrong, about anything, then the whole business might as well be made-up. It is impossible for someone to simply be wrong. They have to be lesser. They must be undeserving of their station, because their station is the only reason they get to decide what is true.

In this worldview, it is your job to make whatever mouth noises justify that mutable truth. I say "your job" because this is all they think you're doing. This is all they think there is. There is no other force in their moral universe. This is quite possibly the human brain's default behavior, and it is not fragile.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Okay, yes, this was my exact experience as well. I don't recall where I got banned, but I was simply making the point that we should use the best bits of socialism and merge them with more modern systems.

They did NOT like that. It seems so incredibly reasonable, and mild to suggest stuff like this... Like, these people really are the "snowflakes" the right attests them to be.