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From the lore of the Predator species, a Predator who goes for a hunt is trying to prove they are worthy of adult status in their society. As each Predator dies in the film they fail to attain adult status in their society.

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[–] PapaStevesy@midwest.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's not what non-sequitur means.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do you know those moving strips in the airport that are like horizontal escalators? In my mind that's a sequitur, so a non sequitur would be just a piece of floor

......Anyway thank you for reading

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

A non-sequitur would be walking 5 feet across the floor and finding yourself in a jungle somewhere. In a place not connected to the place you just came from.

[–] Decoy321@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

How do you define it, then? The definition I'm aware of is for an inference that doesn't follow from the premise.

[–] Swagicus@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Literally, you're right - in Latin it means "not following". But in conventional usage, non-sequitur is more for things that are so completely out of place for the conversation.

Not a non-sequitur: "Okay, so based on this finding, [insert something topical but wrong]".

Non-sequitur: "Okay, so that's great, but Michigan beating Ohio State means this is irrelevant".

(edit because I did not realize the formatting I used for my non-sequitur example caused it not to render)

[–] techwooded@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Your definition for non-sequitur is correct, however the conclusion that Predators are failing to come of age is a logical conclusion of the stated premise. The actual issue, which you pointed out, is that of using a false or faulty premise (that all Predators in the movies are on their first hunts). The validity of an argument isn’t a function of how true a premise is. So you were right that op was wrong in their conclusions, you just mislabeled the issue

[–] PapaStevesy@midwest.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's all about the same movie series canon, none of this is non-sequitur. They would have to be talking about Predator canon and then just start talking about Terminator or something. And even that's not a great example, because Arnold is in both of them.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

One really shouldn't pay more than $15 for a big mac. It's just not that high in price yet even with inflation.

☝️That is a non-sequitur