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I know I posted about this yesterday, but this article does a much better job than I can.

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[–] PizzaMane@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You seem stuck on the vertically of this scenario, and a trained software would likely make the same assumptions, yet they’d be wrong in some cases.

Fair enough.

I fail to see what problem this solution is supposed to address

Drunk driving

Odds of this being a transparent, properly audited, open source solution are nil.

I don't disagree with you there, but just because it might end up being closed source and such doesn't mean it will be connected to the internet and giving your info to companies/the government. The bill specifies that it should be a passive system.

If it merely flagged you for review or something, maybe? I’d have no issue with such a system if it merely tried to wake the driver up when it thinks you’ve fallen asleep.

I wouldn't have a problem with either of those two options.

Drunk drivers would either not opt-in, or bypass them illegally… like they already drive drunk, without licenses or plates illegally.

I don't think it is that clear cut. Drunk driving isn't exactly a premeditated crime. It's one that generally happens on a whim. Sure, some people know they have a habit of doing it and would find a way to opt out, but it would still help address other drunk drivers.

In Canada, we already have alcotest machines mandated in cars for people that have DUI infractions, maybe this technology could complement that.

I would be open to that as well.


If we are really being honest, the easiest solution is to stop having car dependent cities and transportation networks. Nobody is gonna drive drunk when the train/subway/bus/sidewalk can get you home safely, quickly, cheaply, and easily.

Take a look at Japan's drunk driving fatalities. They have almost none. Part of that is their 'draconian' laws/low legal alcohol limits, and also probably culture. But they have fantastic public transportation, and it's a great option for drunks to get home.