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    Yeah, very sorry that this app is Windows only, would love to switch to Mac (feddit.de)
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    [–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Apple: "Sorry but your hardware seems to be out of date with our OS! Please buy another 3000 dollar laptop that's only worth 1000!"

    Me: "But it still runs?"

    Apple: "Does it, though?"

    Me: "Well not anymore... Thanks."

    [–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 13 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Not to defend Apple, but doesn't windows 11 demand you buy new hardware for it to be installed? Something about a TPM?

    [–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Does Windows still allow your applications to function update after update if you decide to stick with Windows 10? Yes. Can you just stay on W10 and expect things to keep working? Also yes.

    I don't have to worry about the newest version of Adobe Premiere not being compatible with this older version of iOS, oops now our promo team and our production team aren't able to share their files because one bought newer Macs and now has an upgraded version of Adobe that Catalina doesn't support unless you also buy new machines that are allowed to update through to Monterey.

    Apple is fine for home use, but as someone who works operations side IT and has to constantly perform network workarounds to get their equipment functional in a commercial environment, fuck Apple and their "We did the thinking for you uwu™️" nonsense.

    [–] cm0002@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

    And OMG, Apples business support is absolute horse shit

    Device management? Good fucking luck. Setting up iOS device management is by far the most painful, migraine inducing, poorly thought out, full of the most asinine restrictions process I've ever seen in my life.

    Setting up Oracle on-prem software is a cake walk compared to Apples shit.

    Windows is a business OS with consumer features, MacOS is a consumer OS with business (poorly executed) "features"

    Apple: "It just works!*"

    *As long as it's not a business feature

    [–] aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

    You can turn that off (unofficially) no such luck on mac

    [–] franklin@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Yeah you need an Intel 8th gen or a ryzen processor in order to use it without a workaround. Something from the last 6 years.

    [–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    You don't need 8th Gen. It's just that 7th gen specifically doesn't work. I'm pretty sure older Intel chips are fine. TPM isn't on your CPU.

    [–] franklin@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

    Correct, I was trying to keep it simple but yes more specifically you need a TPM 2.0 capable system

    [–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    They update Macs for a good 8 years or so, which isn't that bad really. Then you can often just install newer versions with community tools after that.

    Edit: I haven't had one in a few years, apparently that's not quite true recently as they're trying to drop x86 support and move everything to ARM

    [–] mac@infosec.pub 1 points 10 months ago

    That's more of an architecture shift as opposed to we don't support it because fuck you, also Rosetta means most x86 Mac apps will be able to run on the m-series chips.

    [–] mac@infosec.pub 1 points 10 months ago

    I've seen MacBook's last for 8+ years and remain performant.