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Tesla whistleblower calls cars with Autopilot “experiments in public roads” (arstechnica.com)

submitted 11 months ago by DannyMac@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl -46 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I've put like 10k miles on AutoPilot. It's not an experiment.

[+] nicolascage@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

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[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl -14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It's not that I know better than them. It's that they are completely blowing things out of proportion.

[+] nicolascage@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

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[+] helenslunch@feddit.nl -11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

And you say that based on personal anecdotes

Because nothing more is necessary. If it was an "experiment" I would know about it because it would be driving erratically and attempting to kill me but instead it is "pretty good".

What is the right proportion for it to be blown up to your loved one was killed?

I would be very upset that there was such an irresponsible driver behind the wheel for sure. That's not Tesla's fault. You can't blame Tesla because they added safety features to the car...

Also there are dozens of other cars with this same technology on the road but everyone wants to pick on Tesla because it makes headlines.

[+] nicolascage@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The ignorance on display here is palpable.

Agreed.

How convenient, you avoided answering my question at all!

Why do you hate children?

that has directly caused 17 fatalities, mind you

[citation needed]

It's all garbage if it poses a threat to a human life.

It doesn't. It's the opposite. It protects human life.

dismissing results due to your own biases is quite ignorant.

How can I "dismiss results" when none have been presented?

[+] nicolascage@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

My CompE Master's and my previous work in vision-based AI collision detection systems has left me woefully unprepared to have educated and qualified experience for this exact topic.

That's awesome! Would you share more with us about the research you conducted with Tesla's AutoPilot, and specifically what makes it "experimental"?

I never mentioned children

How convenient, you avoided answering the question at all!

Here you go:

As I suspected, nothing points to the notion that this was caused by AutoPilot. It's caused by inattentive drivers.

This is nothing but shit "journalism" playing on whatever is "hot" and trendy.

I'm sure the 17+ dead human lives really appreciate this "protection".

There are no dead human lives. You're just making that up.

dismissing the findings of engineers close to the technology due to your own biases is incredibly ignorant.

I don't have any biases. "Ignorant" is claiming that a driver assistance system is responsible for driver inattentiveness.

Bye bye now.

[+] nicolascage@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hey welcome back!

Why the accidents happen is not why I commented.

That's literally the entire point of the article in OP. You repeatedly blamed Autopilot for several deaths. If that's not the point, what is?

Says the person that literally drives a Tesla with Autopilot

That doesn't inherently make me biased. I can and will gladly talk shit about all the dumb shit Tesla does. There's plenty of it to go around without fabricating nonsense.

You've favored your own 10k+ miles over an ex-Tesla employee and refuse to accept reported data

You keep repeating this and I keep correcting you. I'm not doing it again. I've been abundantly clear about this several times at this point. That's not what's happening. If you want to argue with a strawman, feel free to do that with yourself.

Your ignorance is due to you believing your personal anecdotal evidence is qualified in any way to dismiss Autopilot issues as an experiment.

It absolutely is. It doesn't require anything more. That's just a fact.