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[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Well no. I live rural. So rural we don't have pedestrian walkways or anything.

I'm not anti public transportation. I'm pro pro pro. However trains don't help rural. Rural get shafted on most things. No broadband no sewage no bin pick up. You have to drive.

I fucking hate driving. I would happily sit on any number of vehicles. It's just not feasible unfortunately.

The country I currently reside in has no trains. Relies on planes which is beyond infuriating

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I have family who live in rural Norway, and yeah -- they drive to the train station. Still a big improvement over having to drive all the way to work or the store.

And yeah-- I'm talking about small tiny towns having buses and trains. Look at a map of South Dakota. That's the state where I live, and we had them.

[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Only works if the costs is less. No point driving to station to pay triple what driving would get you and take longer

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

The costs of driving aren't directly on the driver, but are the sprawl, environmental problems, expensive infrastructure, and deaths caused by car use.

Direct per-trip costs can be fixed with government subsidies (which have been heavily given to cars in the past) and travel times can be fixed with higher quality infrastructure and transit-oriented development.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The point is that you are part of a larger community, and it's appropriate to behave as such. People ride public transport every day, and you can too. You're not better than anyone else, and if you have rural acreage, you can certainly afford the time and money to support the type of infrastructure that benefits the majority as well as our planet.

[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fuck are you on about?

There's no public transportation here. I'd need to drive an hour to the nearest city. In which case I no longer require the public transportation.

Why would I be better than anyone? I'm worse off not better.

I have more money and time because I live rural.

What are you even trying to say ?

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There’s no public transportation here.

Congratulations, you've identified the problem! Therefore, we need infrastructure, which is what I've been saying all along!

Why would I be better than anyone? I’m worse off not better.

You would literally be on the same transportation as everyone else. Poor you.

I have more money and time because I live rural.

Unless you are a farmer or similar, it is far more sustainable to live in a town. Living in an expansive rural acreage or in a suburb is a luxury that we shouldn't cater to.

What are you even trying to say ?

I'm saying public transportation in rural areas is feasible, and something that is sustained in many parts of the world. There's nothing about your situation that makes it so it wouldn't work for you. You've just been heavily propagandized by capitalists who profit from our current broken system.

[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Yes. We do need infrastructure. Not what your comment said though. Unfortunately there no infrastructure to the nearest village so no chance it's coming even further out.

What does being on the same transport change ? What are you getting at ? What's the point in this ?

You don't think "we" should allow people to love rural?

Who is this "we" why are you deciding for the masses where they should live?

Only farmers are allowed to love rural. Are you perchance a child or something.

I've not and I think it is you who is "slightly" out of touch with reality. Maybe check in on that one aye.

More public transportation would benefit all.

Of you actually built proper transportation with hubs that link into more transportation then we could spread out a live more rural.

[–] shani66@lemmy.comfysnug.space 3 points 10 months ago

Honestly, the government should reclaim the land you live on, for good money and after building better population centers of course. Not that people couldn't move back after some amount of time had passed, but i doubt most would if they felt what it was like to live in an actual civilized society for once and being that rural should be a major outlier.

I live rural too, so I'd know how poorly that'd go over with the hicks, but i do genuinely think a restructure of society like that is necessary.