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    [–] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 53 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    People hating on linus but I'd say he's honestly done videos to help linux be in the light. Like it or not linux still has its pain points. More importantly if you want linux to have wide adoption then you'll need for manufacturers to ship them on devices and have them in store.

    [–] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 59 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    I hate on Linus not because he doesn't like linux, but because he is a bad boss who overworks his employees and has allegations against him.

    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

    He actually became what he hated... at least that's what he used as an excuse for quitting his day job.

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Don't you know? He didn't sell his soul, he auctioned it!

    [–] Nilz@sopuli.xyz 9 points 9 months ago
    [–] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    The allegations are allegations. Its not against him personally but at some of his employees and they hired an independent investigator to investigate the issue. People had issue with perhaps certain things being crunchy and he walked that back and they're on a more laid back schedule now.

    [–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    It did not matter if I spoke to someone with evidence of an abuse of power, or inappropriate workplace behavior, it was considered tattle taling.

    I was actually called a tattle tale

    I was told I was bossy, when I was trying to be assertive. (like I was asked to do)

    I was told I was arguing, when I was trying to discuss my point of view.

    I was told to "calm my tits", "stop being such a bitch", and other comments to similar effects.

    Sounds like he runs a great company.

    [–] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    I'm sorry but once again, an investigation needs to happen with evidence for those claims. If true then the people involved should face repercussions.

    [–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)
    1. As far as I know, no legal charges where made or will be made. So the only investigation will be the one he himself paid for and he doesn't have enough credibility for my to believe him even if he said everything was false.
    2. What what evidence would you personally need to believe that Madison isn't just making it up?
    [–] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Should we believe people just because they claim so? Anyone who makes a claim that something happened to them or someone did X needs to provide evidence. Otherwise anyone can just say anything about anyone.

    [–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    What evidence would you need to believe her? At least one other former staff member (Colin) said

    @suuuoppp's (Madison) posts today in are line with what I remember hearing back when we were colleagues, and it takes mad huevos to post that.

    Other former LMG employees like Maxine at the very least liked the tweets where she claimed these things.

    Linus held a staff meeting about how to handle HR related issues right after Madison quit. Even though he responded to her accusations by saying her had no idea this was going on.

    And if that's not good enough for you, again what evidence do you need to believe her?

    [–] NoLifeGaming@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Colin's statements should be taken into consideration. Maxine liking a tweet isn't evidence. We need a investigation that takes context into account and not just one person's claims. I'm not saying she's lying or she's truthful. but rather saying that the proper procedure should be taken. And if involved parties are found to have done what she claims then action should be taken against them

    [–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    An investigation by who?

    What evidence do you need?

    [–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    The one that make taking action against them possible. Liking a tweet and one reply by an employee of a 100 employee company is not it.

    I refuse to “cancel” people because of he said she said.

    [–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    What evidence would you need?

    [–] jaykay@lemmy.zip 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Imo, this kind of situation should be resolved irl, not on Twitter. So yeah, I will wait for the results of the investigation. We'll see what happens when they publish them. I can't tell you what evidence I need, cos I don't know. But I know twitter posts aren't it.

    [–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    You're waiting for an investigation that the accused party paid for?

    He came over to my corner and started BERATING HER. Calling her insane, mentally ill, an attention seeker, and just digging into this poor woman who had felt wronged by him.

    You really think Linus would admit to doing this if the investigation he paid for and controls said he did do it? That sounds incredibly naive to me.

    [–] jaykay@lemmy.zip -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Yes, I’m waiting for the investigation Linus paid for. Is it naive? Maybe. But I rather do that than listen and be on the same side as people like you. Innocent until proven guilty.

    Investigation says nothing happened. Okay. Investigation says something happened. Depends what happens after that. They don’t publish anything, we take out our pitchforks.

    I don’t think Linus is the kind of person to control an investigation and the results they publish. Maybe I’m wrong, but again I don’t have stake in this. I watch content while playing games in the background. BFD. I’m not gonna make my lives mission trying to convince others that some random content creator is a bad person. It’s not my job to decide that

    [–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

    Yes, I’m waiting for the investigation Linus paid for.

    If your just a Linus fanboy I guess there's no point in continuing this conversation. I wish you the best of luck on life though 🖖

    [–] sebinspace@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Absolutely. If you really want the “year of the Linux desktop”, the Linux community needs to start meeting people where they are, or atleast halfway between where they are and where Linux users are.

    [–] MadhuGururajan@programming.dev 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    A silent portion of the community actually prefers that normal people don't adopt linux. Those with entitlement and wanting to be spoonfed everything are best left to suffer with windows.

    Its kind of unfair because the playing field is not level. Microsoft made sure of this decades ago.

    The problem with linux is Microsoft. They worked hard over half a century to make it difficult for linux adoption. They paid hardware vendors to keep windows exclusivity. They forced secureboot starting at windows 8 causing problems for linux users.

    They made sure linux never got the mindshare that windows has.

    [–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 9 months ago

    A silent portion of the community actually prefers that normal people don't adopt linux. Those with entitlement and wanting to be spoonfed everything are best left to suffer with windows.

    It feels good to be acknowledged sometimes. I go out of my way to help folks at times but I do not want a simplified OS that prevents you from breaking things by taking away your agency and embeds ads into the OS itself.

    [–] ikidd@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    His videos are almost always hit pieces as he purposefully stumbles around like a drunken monkey and fails miserably every time therefore LiNuX bAd.

    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    Me talking to Linus at gun point: You're gonna install Arch on that thing AND YOU'RE GONNA LIKE IT!!!

    Seriously though, you have no idea how many times people have given me latops with Suse preinstalled and told me to install Windows on them. They just buy them because they're usually cheaper (no Windows license). They don't actually care that they're made to be Linux compatible. They could have FreeDOS or come completely blank for all they care. They just wanna have a working Windows install on their laptops.

    [–] Jarix@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

    Also for wide adoption of Linux, If Linus who literally built and fixed computers to pay the bills and learned enough doing that to go on to build the media company he currently has can't get the Linux things done he's attempted, that's a pretty clear sign post that Linux is not ready for wide adoption in its current state.

    Linus is better equipped to install Linux than im guessing 90% of people on the planet

    [–] BURN@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Linus may not be the all knowing tech god that a lot of people like to make him out to be, but I’d definitely say he’s the average “tech-savvy” guy, but isn’t someone who could properly administrate a homelab, let alone infrastructure for a lot of people.

    The Linux challenge was extremely accurate to what would happen if the average windows users tried to use Linux with no outside help. In fact, it’s very similar to my experiences with Linux, where I can accomplish simple tasks, but once I need power user features they’re much harder to find, documentation is patchy at best and you’ve got to hope they didn’t change anything in a recent version of the OS, cause some commands just change arbitrarily (looking at you Docker-compose on Ubuntu 20+)

    [–] David_Eight@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

    Everybody knows Wendell is the real tech God.

    [–] BURN@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

    Wendell is the only one I trust to teach me server related stuff. As far as I know, there’s never been any major problems with him

    [–] MadhuGururajan@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago

    Pop os is better now