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Legend has it we still don’t know (lemmy.world)

submitted 9 months ago by nifty@lemmy.world to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works

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[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because the principle struggle is the class struggle between the working class and the owning classes, all other strugles are either secondary, incidental, or made up in order to distract us from the principle strugle, or a combination of the above. Once one learns this, the world starts to lock into a better prospective and we can start working to our ultimate goal, making a stew from the Rich

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

all other strugles are either secondary, incidental, or made up in order to distract us from the principle strugle

I've heard this from syndicalists so many times as an excuse for disinvesting from any other contemporary struggle. They end up alienating everyone who cares for more than one issue.

[–] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 months ago

First, I am not a syndicalist, I know that is not important but I feel I should mention it, because as the meme goes, there is no one a leftist hates more than a sligtly difrent leftist.

I also never said "do not care about other issues" or "other strugles do not exist" I would also be wrong to say to disinvest from the suffering from others, however it is important to remember that 1) the primary struggle is that of class, and second most of those secondary and tertiary struggles, atleast under the status quo, can be traced back to the primary struggle, and that we cannot get a true and proper fix for them, or atleast it is significatly harder to do, if we do not work on fixing the primary struggle

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sexism is not solved with more female CEOs.

Racism is not solved with billionaire POCs.

Queerphobia is not solved with more LGBTQ+ media representation.

The primary oppression is of the working class, and being a member of any of these marginalised groups simply fast tracks you to working class.

That's not to say there aren't systemic prejudices. Of course there are. But these primarily serve to keep the group of elites small and ever more exclusive.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The primary oppression is of the working class, and being a member of any of these marginalised groups simply fast tracks you to working class.

i am not interested in arguing. I thought, maybe if you read what you wrote, you may see that it's incorrect. Can you see it?

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not interested in deflectionary rhetoric.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

just reread what you wrote

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nice try, but I'm not falling for that.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

just reread what you wrote

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 0 points 9 months ago

So little effort.