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[–] CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml 58 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Cloud gaming is a plague. More fuel for the "you will own nothing and be happy" camp. Let it die. GeForce Now was at least one of the better options since you just use their servers to play games from your owned library, but the whole concept is a plague nonetheless. Let streaming nonsense die. Streaming from your own PC is the only streaming solution that doesn't exist to weaken consumer ownership of their gaming experience.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 24 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah I have to disagree with you on that one. I understand where you're coming from but you can game on high end equipment without buying it. Not to mention the situation with heat build-up in my room. Basically sharing the costs with 100 other users.

When my current PC is dead in 5 years or whatever I will probably transition to cloud gaming (and SteamDeck).

[–] beefcat@beehaw.org 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

you can game on high end equipment without buying it.

This is how they get you to give up ownership of your games. I'm fine with it as an option, but I fear that one day publishers will decide it should be the only option.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You already don't own your games.

[–] beefcat@beehaw.org 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

It's not exactly hard for me to make "backups" of most games I can download, as the DRM is usually cracked within weeks or months of release.

A single player game that is exclusive to streaming would just be gone forever the instant it gets delisted.

[–] TheOakTree@beehaw.org 1 points 8 months ago

A single player game that is exclusive to streaming would just be gone forever the instant it gets delisted.

I agree with this, but what does it have to do with GeForce Now? They don't make any games exclusive on this platform... nor do they have rights to many other games that are exclusives. Beyond that, none of the games on GeForce Now are owned by the user because the games are available through Steam or Epic mostly.

[–] Coki91@dormi.zone 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Im seriously intersted on how is Cloud Gaming (in the way Geforce does it) part of the "you will own nothing and be happy" issue, im not saying the trope isnt real, im saying that I cant think how does it fit into this concept. On my view this is akin as going into a Cyber Cafe you could walk down the street anyday, you dont own anything either but your money's worth isnt sailing without you receiving what you paid for

[–] darkkite@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

because you have to extrapolate.

publishers don't want you to own games just lease them so they can deprecate games and make you upgrade when they want to.

also no more mods or cheatengine to enhance the game or bypass microtransactions

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

GeForce Now doesn't lease games. Just let's you run games you already own on other stores using cloud hardware.

[–] darkkite@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

not every game you own can be used this way.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 8 points 8 months ago

Okay? You still can't "lease games" from them.

[–] Coki91@dormi.zone 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Well, that makes sense for the most part, but there's the important detail that there are streaming services that grant you a fully uncontrolled rig, I just cant think of any that are free. In fact, Geforce Now used to do this, until legal issues arised from a clause being extremely specific making users unable to legally play on a device they werent physically in contact with, real shitty but allegedly not Nvidia's fault or the cloud streaming service as a whole.

[–] etrotta@beehaw.org 2 points 8 months ago

It still has more upsides than your average X as a service. Beyond what the OP already said, it lets you jump right into a game without having to wait for it to download, which is pretty big when games regularly take >100GB of space, even more so if you like to switch between different games often.

If you try a game and decide you don't like it, you may as well end up using up less bandwidth than if you had downloaded, not to mention zero waiting time (unless there's a queue, but usually there isn't assuming that you have an actual paid subscription and it isn't an absurd peak demand).