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Imagine the absolute utopia we would live in if every person would feel the pain of others.
This is the somewhat harrowing conclusion Mr lem comes to in the cyberiad when confronting this same issue in one of the short stories.
Not to say anything against the sentiment, I largely agree just found it noteworthy. Especially if you've never heard of them give them a read/listen.
Sounds like an interesting read, thank you
I did deliberately only share pain for my thought experiment, and also imagined it on a global scale. That would alleviate some of the issues, but possibly not all of them depending on how it would work in effect, and also introduce some of its own. For example if everyone always felt everyone’s suffering and perhaps even deaths the whole planet would go through thousands of deaths every day, effectively stunning everyone into a constant death experience. And if death was not felt but suffering was, people might still end up killing each other.
I wonder how it might be if any pain you inflicted on others, you also recieved yourself. That might iron out some of those kinks.
This is the first Cyberiad reference I've seen in the wild. Such a great book
A fictitious story that assumes peoples' behavior against those they cannot feel being inexplicable violence in no way what so ever reflects on rational reality in any way.
People already don't feel others' pain and most see the benefit in not mistreating other things, let alone other people.
Also, why the flying fuck would people break in to feel something vicariously that they were already directly feeling via the drug's effects?? That short story is illogical even within its own universe.
yeah that story just reeks of "oooo look how smart i am, people bad!"
fuck off with that shit, humans are pathologically empathic and will risk their own lives to save wild animals
This is the ultimate conclusion of the Hyperion Cantos.