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This reads like they trained an AI on r/newzealand posts and comments, and just let it do it's thing.
Everything about our society is induced demand. Traffic on the roads? They wouldn't be there if we hadn't built it. Public transport users? Wouldn't be there if 50% of their fare wasn't subsidised. Air travel? Wouldn't be nearly as popular if we were still flying DC-3s.
If our government thought the same way this sub does, SH1 would still be gravel.
This is also written on the assumption that everyone only drives at peak times, as someone who is frequently on the road in the middle of the day, I can tell you that Wellington's motorways and expressways probably save me hours per week.
Does this make sense to you?
This is actually a fascinating look into the simplistic world view of someone like you. Motorways don't simply end at the CBD like that, with everyone driving to the same place. They have a number of on and off ramps, with people getting off and on before and after the CBD.
Take the Taupo bypass, for example. Would you say not having heavy traffic chugging it's way through the city centre has improved or worsened the situation?
I'd engage if you weren't so inflammatory most of the time, as it stands, I just don't have the energy.
You've argued yourself into a corner with your silly graphic, more like it.
It's a well studied phenomenon now: more lanes in the long run do not improve traffic, and might also make them worse. There is nothing to dispute about that.
And the graphic portrays the problem perfectly.
Love the fact that you respond by downvoting, with no reply. Coward.
Who me? I have no idea what you are talking about - I didn't vote you down.
So, they downvoted me, but decided not to upvote you?
Hey, you're onto something there. Maybe if we better used the capacity of our existing roads we wouldn't need to spend a whole bunch of money on new ones. Perhaps we could induce some demand for public transport, cycling and walking that take up far less space, and that could reduce congestion by having fewer cars. That would free up space for the vehicles remaining.