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[–] andyburke@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Sorry, but this is such fatalistic bs.

So much has changed.

I remember acid rain.
I remember leaded gas.
I remember 12mpg cars.
I remember the photos of terrible brown smog floating over Los Angeles.
I remember before anyone had a recycling bin.
I remember...

The list goes on. And I'm only a handful of decades old.

Can we do more? Yes.
Should we do more? Absolutely.
Are more people aware of that than ever before? Yes.

Humans have technologied their way out of so much shit, I am not ready to give up on us yet.

[–] luthis 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Will we do more? No.

We have only got so far with technology because it resulted in sales. When the goal is less sales, less industry, less mindless consumption, no innovation is going to happen.

[–] ShakyPerception@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Ah, but you forget about the rubber band finally snapping. When it is released there will be push back and things will happen quickly.

Now the real question becomes, how much more can we take. I believe we are reaching a tipping point where the uber-rich either help, or are removed. And I think they are starting to see that too.

Part of the work has to be processing the emotions of our past failures. It's okay to feel fatalistic for a minute just to sit with those feelings. But we do need to get over it sooner or later and get to work, too.

I remember acid rain.

Still happens just in 3rd world countries.

I remember leaded gas.

Which didn't get fixed until an act of congress.

I remember 12mpg cars.

Marginal increases in technology are not to be celebrated when the medium of consumption is still a greenhouse gas.

I remember the photos of terrible brown smog floating over Los Angeles.

Those still exist just in 3rd world countries.

I remember before anyone had a recycling bin.

Recycling that does nothing???

I remember…

Yeah me too -- and shit's still absolutely fucked.