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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I admire third party voters in the US, trying to bring down the 2 party system.

The thing is that unlike previous elections, this one could actually break down democracy.

Trump is going even more insane than previous elections, or even during his time in office. Calling himself "dictator for a day". All so if he gets elected, he can just pardon himself and get rid of the huge amounts of criminal charges. He doesn't care who he has to step on to achieve this.

All to the delight of Putin of course, it is widely known how deep Trump is in his pocket. He backs Trump so Trump can get the US to retreat from NATO, and destabilise Europe and the US so he can war further in all the Slavic countries that he considers USSR territories without issue.

That is also why we encounter so many Russia bots and shills. To make it seem the "genocide joe" issue is much bigger than it actually is.

I'd love for Biden to change his stance on sending Israel weapons, but not if it means increasing the chance of WW3.

And don't kid yourself, WW3 will inch closer if Trump gets reelected.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I admire third party voters in the US, trying to bring down the 2 party system.

It is a pretty misinformed attempt, considering that voting for a third party will never bring down the US 2 party system. It will at best replace one of the 2 parties with another party. The 2 party system is baked into the US political system on account of its election laws, and it will take some major revisions of the US constitution to change that to something else.

[–] Jentu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 months ago

That’s essentially what happened with the Whigs. The leadership decided that they weren’t going to decide one way or another on a strong stance for/against slavery, ignoring the pleading of their own constituents. So the anti slavery ex-Whigs made Lincoln’s Republican Party and the Whigs never recovered.

So not only is biden likely handing the election to trump, the moral outcry that is being ignored might kill the Democratic Party for good.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

On point except not sure the Constitution has to change.

For example Alaska implemented ranked choice voting, and states have implemented proportional allotment.

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

The only way to bring down the two party system in the US is to eliminate first past the post voting.